No, seriously, if the science and observations are all valid, then why have they not been able to demonstrate anything on a larger, easily-observed scale? They'e had 20 years to move from "scientific claim" to the next step of irrefutable proof, and they can't do it. They can't even explain the "why" of alleged excess energy production.
So I'm still betting on Dumbledore.
Sure, after that, you need to string wires everywhere, get people to put phones in their homes and businesses, and set up billing structures to fund telephone companies -- there would be plenty of work left to do. But you'd know that the telephone works.
Fusion? I used to have hopes but it just seems like one scam after another. No public demonstration. No "Mr Watson" moment. They just keep dangling the promise in front of me.
I say it's a con.
Largely because the science effort in LENR has been stifled/impeded at every turn by some of the dirtiest science politics I have ever seen in my almost fifty years of "doing science", and includes actual science fraud on the part of some of those who claimed "not to observe" the effects. These efforts continue today, and are well documented, especially by Steve Krivit.
"They'e had 20 years to move from "scientific claim" to the next step of irrefutable proof, and they can't do it.
FYI, "they" have "done it", at least according the the normal standards of scientific proof. EVERY facet of CF has been replicated, often multiple times.
"They can't even explain the "why" of alleged excess energy production."
"Why" is largely irrelevant. Replicable scientific results are all that is needed. The problem is not "not enough theory" the problem is "too many (competing) theories". But make no mistake......physics is "still" an experimental science, and replicable results "still" trump any theory.
Then where’s my Mr. Fusion?
***You are utterly, 100% right. The hot fusion boys have spent $250B of our money, and the best we have to show for it is 6MJoules of output for a few seconds. In the meantime, hundreds of LENR experiments have generated thousands of MJoules for less than a thousandth of the cost — almost all of which is private money to begin with.
So for hot fusion, we’ve got maybe a total of 10MJoules for $250B, which comes to $25k/Joule. For cold fusion, we’ve got maybe a total of 100k MJoules for $250M, which 25cents/Joule.
Like you say, where is my Mr. Fusion, from the hot fusion boys?
No, seriously, if the science and observations are all valid, then why have they not been able to demonstrate anything on a larger, easily-observed scale?
***No, seriously, ask the same question of hot fusion before you demand it of LENR.
They’e had 20 years to move from “scientific claim” to the next step of irrefutable proof, and they can’t do it.
***Hot fusion has had 50 years to reach the next step, and they can’t do it. We should parcel out that money for research based upon how many Joules are produced.
They can’t even explain the “why” of alleged excess energy production.
***There are dozens of theories right now, just like there are dozens of theories of gravity. They can’t explain gravity, and yet apples still fall from trees.