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To: lonevoice
It is! Fifty-four comments in and I still have absolutely no clue what this is. Bookmarking to keep an eye on it though.

It's about creating a means to preserve military and government communications in a disaster or emergency; anything from full-scale nuclear war to an EMP to a massive solar flare to a crippling cyber-attack.

61 posted on 07/07/2012 10:34:50 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist

Was it back in the early 2000’s when there was enough concern about an EMP attack that they had a commission created to investigate how much damage an EMP attack could do and how to decrease the vulnerabilities? If would make sense for something like this to be put in effect shortly after the commission came out with its report.

Do you know the history of this particular EO? I mean, has there been an EO like this one in effect at some time before now?

My question has been whether Soros’ preferred method of martial law is another run on the bank, or an Iranian EMP attack. Heck it wouldn’t even have to be the Iranians who did the attack, as long as it could be made to LOOK like the Iranians had done it. But I think the Iranians may already have the capability, given N Korea’s cooperation on creating nukes, their own delivery systems which they’ve tested for EMP capabilities, and Venezuela’s offer to use their country as a missile launch site for Iran.

I wonder if this EO just lays the groundwork for Obama to take over in a full coup if the means to martial law is an EMP attack. An EMP attack would make it much, much easier for Hezbollah sleepers in the US to wreak havoc than a financial collapse would. And an EMP attack would also create a financial collapse even larger than what an electronic run on the bank would.

My worst-case scenario has been an EMP attack shortly before the election, followed by Hezbollah operatives enacting a full-out coup for Soros’ communist-Islamist alliance. I’ve thought that they would perhaps try smaller things such as race riots or an electronic run on the bank but that if neither of those seemed likely to be successful (a big enough crisis) they would go for an EMP attack, and Iran has the means and motive to do that.

They probably would also be willing to work with Soros on the timing - since Soros, Islamists like Ahmadinejad and all the Muslim Brotherhood and Salafists who have taken control of the Middle East while Soros/Obama winks, and communists such as Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro who have launch sites close enough to be dangerous to the US...share Soros’ goal of destroying the US. Soros has said he doesn’t want the US to win the “war on terror” because then America and capitalism will be strong, and America and capitalism are the world’s two great evils that Soros, who believes he is God, has to get rid of.

Soros, who says he owns the democratic party (and now with Barack Obama as his puppet has control over all US military, intelligence, and technological capabilitie) believes he is God, and Ahmadinejad believes he is supposed to create Armageddon so the 12th Imam will appear. He believes that they cannot possibly lose a nuclear war because if they are ever able to start one the 12th Imam will finish it for them.

People need to seriously consider what these 2 “abominations that cause desolation” could accomplish if working together - especially because Soros’ own words make it likely that they ARE working together.


163 posted on 07/08/2012 5:36:26 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Strategerist

The infrastructure is already in place that is EMP hardened...
Now if The King needs to exercise “flexibility” prior to his defeat in November, it can be done...


177 posted on 07/08/2012 7:32:53 AM PDT by Shady (There is no separation of powers..they want to ace the people out...)
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To: Strategerist
It's about creating a means to preserve military and government communications in a disaster or emergency; anything from full-scale nuclear war to an EMP to a massive solar flare to a crippling cyber-attack.

Exactly. This is nothing new; not really. This EO was first enacted during the Cuban Missile Crisis and has been renewed by every POTUS over the years, including Carter, Reagan and Bush I and II, with numerous revisions and new language over the years to keep up with new technologies.

When there are severe weather events and natural disasters; outbreaks of tornados, floods, hurricanes; earthquakes, wildfires or some other type of public emergency like the 9-11 terrorist attacks and the EBS breaks in on your local radio and TV with emergency messages and instructions, how exactly is that impeding your “free speech”? Well, it doesn’t.

This is not, IMO about shutting down civilian access or use of the internet or that of commercial broadcasting, except for communicating EBC messages, but it really has to do with tasking the numerous federal agencies; many now very dependent on internet connections, cyber communications, cloud computing and cellular technologies, with coming up with actual and firm contingency plans for communication in the event of massive power outages and internet disruptions as the result of a natural disaster, an EMP attack, a massive solar flare, cyber attack or any event that effectively shuts down the types of communications we are now so dependent on.

FWIW, when we drive on our interconnected interstate highway system, we would do well to remember that the Eisenhower administration didn’t do this back in the 1950’s to make it easier for us to drive to Boca FL to visit grandma or drive our RV’s on cross country trips, but to enable the military to have easy access to get around quickly in the event of a nuclear war. Heck, even the internet it’s self was initially a development of the DOD as a means of securing uninterrupted national defense communications. That the internet morphed into something much bigger with many civilian uses was just a happy accident and outgrowth of something that was never initially intended to serve that purpose.

As far as where we are technology wise now days; I work as a payroll/HRIS manager for a rather large company. Last Monday our internet provider had some type of major equipment failure (perhaps because of the massive thunderstorm in the Mid-Atlantic) that completely cut us off from the internet and from all external emails and that pretty much shut my department down from doing any meaningful work for most of the day; and without internet and email access we pretty much couldn’t do anything, especially process payroll as our payroll system is “in the cloud” through our payroll vendor; i.e. without internet access, we have no access as the system and stored data is not resident on our own internal servers and even if it was, we’d have no means of transmitting that data to our vendor without an internet connection. I was on the phone with ADP and our IT department to determine our contingency plan in the event that our internet service didn’t come back on for several days as that would mean we couldn’t process payroll for several hundred people. Fortunately by the end of the day on Monday, our internet and email services were restored and life went on and people, including me, got paid on time. : ),

But it was an important lesson for me. So I’m now working on developing a comprehensive emergency contingency plan in conjunction with our IT department and our payroll vendor in the event that we experience a much longer term power outage and or internet disruption so we can still get our people paid, even if that means processing manual checks, paying people based on the last payroll run, and or estimates of time worked if our electronic time clocks go down or even loaning folks a small amount of cash in a catastrophic event to get by for a few days and making adjustments later on. Of course, I can’t do anything about ATM’s going down, or banks being closed and the like, but I can do my very small part to ensure that we’ve done what we can as a company in case of a catastrophic emergency to help our employees get through a catastrophic emergency.

BTW, I was working as PR manager for a company in Baltimore-Washington area on 9-11. We had finished processing PR but the bank that we sent our funds to for direct deposits was located in lower Manhattan and for very obvious reasons, the wire transfer couldn’t go through. Our company shut down early as it was near chaos; schools were closing early, people were scared and leaving work to go pick up their kids and go home, etc. but I stayed late and was the very last person to leave the building because I was working with our payroll vendor and bank to re-route the payroll funds through several alternate banks across the country as the very last thing I wanted to have happen, with all the chaos and unknowns on that day, was to not get people their pay.

178 posted on 07/08/2012 7:38:15 AM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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