Team Romney: No, we’re not declaring ‘cease-fire’ on Obamacare

Washington Examiner ^

[Perdogg]

In the days since the Supreme Court decision upholding Obamacare, some Democrats and commentators in the press have suggested that Mitt Romney is declaring a “cease-fire” on the issue and will no longer make it a centerpiece of his campaign to defeat President Obama.

[Norm Lenhart]

Wrong.

His logic only works with two relatively conservative candidates. We are not in that position.We have Far and Farther Left.

Voting either in is supporting the far or farther left and NOT conservative.

[bramps]

Been out for awhile and I'm sure that this is going nowhere. I'm sure an earlier freeper was correct in saying you're a good man. Hope you had a good fourth.

[Norm Lenhart]

Same to you. Hope it was a good one for you as well.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Mitt “might” yield to political pressures. Obama won’t, come hell or high water.

[HiTech RedNeck]

I think the country is going to answer this in a way that will make the entirety of FR’s members’ votes moot. Larger America loathes Barack Obama and Barack gives larger America more reasons to loathe him by the week. On the other hand, most of larger America won’t see much of Mitt’s liberal side (Barack Obama sure won’t bring that out, and typically paints Mitt as one of those horrible right wing nuts), and will believe that the ever-waffling Mitt will walk his present talk.

Mitt will probably walk away with 40 states or more when the November results come in.

[OneWingedShark]

You explain to me how a conservative can vote for Romney without abandoning his conservative beliefs to do so and I vow right here and now to campaign HARD for Mitt Romney on FR and everywhere else.
This is an open invitation to you, Levin, Laura any freeper and anyone else on the planet.

Challenge accepted.
First we need definitions:
Conservative

1. disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change.
2. cautiously moderate or purposefully low: a conservative estimate.
3. traditional in style or manner; avoiding novelty or showiness: conservative suit.
4. (often initial capital letter) of or pertaining to the Conservative party.
5. (initial capital letter) of, pertaining to, or characteristic of Conservative Jews or Conservative Judaism.

So then, to be a conservative we want to keep things the same.

Obama               Romney
  |                    |
  |                    |
  |                    |
  |                    |
 Marxist             Fabian
 Socialist           Socialist
  \                    /
   \                  /
    \                /
     \              /
      \            /
       \          /
        IMPLEMENTS
         SOCIALISM

As we can see from the above flow-chart, the result of voting for Romney is the same as voting for Obama, therefore preserving the status quo, and therefore being fully in line with keeping things the way they are.

The above was meant as tongue-in-cheek sarcasm.

[HiTech RedNeck]

If they are the same, why not at least forbid the current one from having a tenure longer than 4 years?

Fabian is, at least, softer and less resolved than Marxist. Mitt might yield to pushback on Fabian libertine schemes. Obama, sure as hell exists, won’t yield on his Marxism. He has to be dragged out screaming.

[Norm Lenhart]

Sarcastic or not, that’s by far the best effort I’ve seen yet ;)

[OneWingedShark]

If they are the same, why not at least forbid the current one from having a tenure longer than 4 years?

Good question, but the premise is flawed; Obama could seek re-election in 2016 if taken out of office. (highly unlikely, but possible.)

Fabian is, at least, softer and less resolved than Marxist. Mitt might yield to pushback on Fabian libertine schemes. Obama, sure as hell exists, won’t yield on his Marxism. He has to be dragged out screaming.

You know, I take the opposite stance; it is best to drag the country suddenly and drastically to the tyranny of socialism rather than slowly and comfortably; the frogs'll jump out then. (I don't want to become accustomed to evils, I want people stirred up enough to throw off even what evils they've become accustomed to.)

[Norm Lenhart]

“If they are the same, why not at least forbid the current one from having a tenure longer than 4 years?”

In the spirit of debate, not that I advocate this...

When two things are equally bad, why change? It would be cost-effective to keep the current situation.

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In reality, they are as bad, just in 2 different ways.Especially considering his long term effect on GO Ppolicy. I will give you this much. There is a possibility that MR would be better. But based on the only hard evidence we have of his real world/not rhetorical actions, that possibility is vanishingly small.

Thus my vote for a conservative.

[littleharbour]

If Romney wins in November, it will be the result of one of those historic shifts where the views of the particular candidate mean less than the simple factor of being in the right place at the right time. Romney is an inept empty suit. He could have used the USSC decision to rally Americans against both Obamacare and the treasonous Court. Instead he’s fumbling away the issue and giving Obama cover. A grade 10 student council candidate could do a more effective job of communicating a message. Pathetic.

[OneWingedShark]

Sarcastic or not, that’s by far the best effort I’ve seen yet ;)

What can I say? it's a gift... and a curse.

Thank you, though. :)

[FourtySeven]

Thanks. I didn’t even hear that show, but it’s good to know the Great One agrees with me. haha

I believe the “relevant” portions (as far as that recording relates to my post) are from 1:33 to 1:40. Just for the record.

Thanks again, and Amen, may God continue to bless Mark Levin.

[OneWingedShark]

I'm leaning to Gary Johnson or Virgil Goode.

Johnson was a good governor of NM, so much so that as a Republican he got reelected in the solidly democratic [at the time, it's since become a little more conservative] state; i certainly don't agree with him on a lot, but I agree with him on enough and recognize his talent for governance.

I know less about Goode, but I'm rather liking some of what I read.

[HiTech RedNeck]

OK, this would have you voting a second time for Jimmy Carter, and then for Al Gore, and Skerry... in order to hasten the shock.

[HiTech RedNeck]

And if Mitt railed against Obamacare and a treasonous Court then I’m sure there’s a third thing he’d be wanting at...

[OneWingedShark]

OK, this would have you voting a second time for Jimmy Carter, and then for Al Gore, and Skerry... in order to hasten the shock.

I make not a single excuse; if I am forced to choose between two social evils the I should choose the one that is honest about itself. (I, however, do reject that premise; I may vote third-party or write-in, and am not therefore so constrained.)

Furthermore, I think that GW Bush did a decent job on his first term, for the most part -- I cannot, however, condone the first of the bailouts: the airlines... If I had been a bit more cynical I would not have voted for him in term-2, his "I had to destroy the free market to save it" was, and is, reprehensible.

After Obama's election and the demonstrable difficulties f getting any government entity to respect the constitution I now think that, barring a divine intervention, bloodshed is the only answer. To that end I pray for my country: God may yet be merciful. But if worse comes to worse, then i am ready to spill blood in battle with domestic enemies of the constitution.

[OneWingedShark]

Mitt, start fighting, or give up and let someone else do it.

If i were old enough for the Presidency then I'd do it... hell, it's not all that difficult.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Obama lied too in the run up to his election — badly — with his pretense of ratcheting right. Mitt at least gave lipservice to some sort of self awareness of the need for an attitude shift when he talked about being “severely conservative” (which from his vantage point is what mushy moderate looks like). If that’s shallow, then what Obama did isn’t hardly even a film of water.

[OneWingedShark]

The better of two evils schtick again?

Yes.