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1 posted on 07/02/2012 10:36:36 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

You know, this sounds exactly like the same alarmist crap I’ve been hearing from these types for the last 40 years. We’re always running out of everything except alarmist eggheads that want to make everyone live in the dark and eat grass. Screw ‘em!


2 posted on 07/02/2012 10:42:06 PM PDT by D_Idaho ("For we wrestle not against flesh and blood...")
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To: Olog-hai

Ditto to the first comment, every five years there is a new crisis and we are all going to do.

It is complete garbage, useful only for a few elites to try to enslave everyone else.


4 posted on 07/02/2012 10:56:28 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Olog-hai

How do we run out of water? Where does it go?


5 posted on 07/02/2012 11:11:10 PM PDT by Dapper 26
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BWAHAHAHAHAHHA.... what a bunch of loons


7 posted on 07/02/2012 11:14:01 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Olog-hai

So many world-ending disaster imaginings. Our economic leaders: sponsors of the media and favored, controlling political constituents, are panicking from mounting guilt and desiring to perpetrate genocide.


8 posted on 07/02/2012 11:16:50 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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I would happily dump these jackasses somewhere between Barstow and Baker. They will experience claustrophobia with the crushing crowds and buildings...or not. A drive up I-15 from San Diego to the Canadian border would disabuse these ignoramuses of the “running out of land” BS.


13 posted on 07/02/2012 11:43:29 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Olog-hai
With numbers and colors, the Trust found that people could build a “mental map” in a short period of time and establish rules for their consumption.

Welcome to 1st grade, chilluns!

17 posted on 07/02/2012 11:56:54 PM PDT by metesky (Brethren, leave us go amongst them! - Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond, The Searchers)
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To: Olog-hai

Speaking of sustainability, perhaps it’s time to co-opt some of the liberal buzz words. We need sustainable government spending and in particular medical care (it’s NOT “health” care!) laws that allow insurance at a sustainable level. Prepaid unlimited medical care is not sustainable because it creates an irresistible incentive to overuse medical services. It’s time to restore sustainability to our federal budget and to medical spending.


21 posted on 07/03/2012 1:52:12 AM PDT by Pollster1 (A boy becomes a man when a man is needed - John Steinbeck)
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To: Olog-hai

The earth is running out of natural resources like land, water and minerals

If this is true there must be gigantic glob of the earth's water and minerals hiding somewhere else in the universe, and surely there is a recently created man made moon composed of this "lost land." How did we manage to launch all of it off this world when no one was looking and thus "run out?" How much mass has the earth lost at human hands?

22 posted on 07/03/2012 1:57:16 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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Studies undertaken by the Carbon Trust showed that consumers would change their behavior if they were given simple information about a product’s environmental impact on a packet

Wonder how donors to the "Carbon Trust" and World Wildlife Fund would change their behavior if they knew how much fine dining, parties, indulgent lobbyist saleries and other non-charitable wasteful spending went on at these places using their well-meant charitable donations?

23 posted on 07/03/2012 2:02:32 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Olog-hai
The first sentence induced suicidal thoughts.
24 posted on 07/03/2012 2:12:55 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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The earth is running out of natural resources like land, water and minerals so quickly that if nothing is done, some predictions say that by 2030 humankind will need the equivalent of two planets to sustain our current lifestyle.

UNMITIGATED BULLSHIT.........


26 posted on 07/03/2012 2:18:39 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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World Wildlife Fund and Carbon Trust.

There’s two left-wing wacko groups I really trust for predictions of any kind. Uh-huh.


29 posted on 07/03/2012 3:04:21 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (All libs and most dems think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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“Groups like Optimum Population Trust play on fear and ignorance. Over-population is based on a long-discredited 1960s paradigm and Paul Ehrlich book, The Population Bomb. The world’s population may be temporarily on the rise, but, worldwide, birthrates have fallen by 50% since the 1960s. Today, almost half the world’s population lives in countries with below-replacement birthrates - in many cases, well below replacement. In Europe, the number of children under 6 has fallen by 36% since 1960. According to the United Nations Population Division, if current trends continue, by 2050 there will be 248 million fewer children in the world under 6 than there are today....

Optimum Population Trust won’t have to worry about so-called carbon footprints when there aren’t enough people (what economists refer to as human capital) to keep modern, industrialized societies functioning.”

Source: Larry Jacobs, World Congress of Families


32 posted on 07/03/2012 4:21:45 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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Not to worry, for as soon as Dear Leader's Death Care kicks into high gear and the "Death Panels" start "allocating medical resources," the population (especially for we Seasoned Citizens) will be thinned out quickly.

Let us not forget that B. Hussein's personally recruited "Health Czar" (Dr. Ezekiel "MENGELE" Emanuel) advocates just such a system, as outlined in his "Complete Lives System."

Emanuel: ”Because none of the currently used systems satisfy all ethical requirements for just allocation, we propose an alternative: the complete lives system. This system incorporates five principles: youngest-first, prognosis, save the most lives, lottery, and instrumental value. As such, it prioritises (sic) younger people who have not yet lived a complete life and will be unlikely to do so without aid. Many thinkers have accepted complete lives as the appropriate focus of distributive justice: “individual human lives, rather than individual experiences, [are] the units over which any distributive principle should operate.”

Although there are important differences between these thinkers, they share a core commitment to consider entire lives rather than events or episodes, which is also the defining feature of the complete lives system.” “The complete lives system also considers prognosis, since its aim is to achieve complete lives. A young person with a poor prognosis has had few life-years but lacks the potential to live a complete life. Considering prognosis forestalls the concern that disproportionately large amounts of resources will be directed to young people with poor prognoses. When the worst-off can benefit only slightly while better-off people could benefit greatly, allocating to the better-off is often justifiable. Some small benefits, such as a few weeks of life, might also be intrinsically insignificant when compared with large benefits.”

Throw in the other Certifiable, Environmental Nutjobs, Cass Sunstein and John Holdren and we have the makings for an all out effort at reducing our population through "Extraordinary Measures" which go way beyond, simple abortions and will make Nazi Germany's efforts to rid their population of "Undesirables" pale in comparison.

Be afraid, be very afraid!!!

33 posted on 07/03/2012 4:28:02 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet
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Soylent Green will feed them.


34 posted on 07/03/2012 4:30:20 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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The progressives have won the battle for nationalized health insurance in the US. Obamacare will not be overturned even with a Republican President, House, and Senate. McConnell essentially proclaimed this fact yesterday. Now that the architecture is in place, over the next 3-5 years we will slowly “evolve” to a single payer government system. Thanks to the Supreme Court ruling the leftists received an added bonus from the Supreme Court giving the state the power to tax anything in any amount. No doubt they will find many creative ways to use this unlimited taxing power as time progresses and the insatiable appetite of the state demands more resources.

On to the next fight. Global warming and resource depletion are already being set up to justify population control. State run health care enshrines the slaughter of the unborn. It will also provide the mechanism to move into forced euthanasia.

Add an economic depression to the mix, as well as government policies deliberately preventing recovery, and you have economic limitations on what government can spend on health care. Economic constraints, and the addition of 30 million new recipients, means rationing. Once we have single payer controlled by the state, the state will decide who gets medical care, when, and how much just as it does in the UK and Canada.

For most of us it will not matter if we have the economic resources (accumulated life savings) to pay for needed care, if the government bureaucrat decides you are too old or too feeble for the heart transplant or hip replacement, you won’t get it. This will be done in the name of “fairness”. When you are 75 it won’t be “fair” for the society to spend resources on providing you a procedure, even if you pay for it, when the 75 year old fourth generation welfare lifelong welfare recipient doesn’t have the resources to pay. There will be arbitrary age cut offs for certain procedures. In the name of fairness average citizens will be told when you hit age 75 you won’t be eligible for a transplant of any kind.

There will of course be exceptions but most of us won’t be eligible. The President and Congress have exempted themselves from the system. No doubt there will soon be politically defined exceptions for prominent citizens deemed special by the elites controlling the state. When Oprah needs a transplant at 78 she will get one no matter how obese she is at the time because she is a cultural icon. By politicizing the availability life prolonging medical care for senior citizens, the state will ensure agreement with its other policies. No doubt the 60 year old county commissioner or state senator isn’t going to make many waves against the established order if he or she knows the bureaucrats are monitoring her behavior. She is going to be ingratiating herself to the established order so when it becomes time to ask for the exception to the rule she has a fighting chance.

Within 3-5 years I expect to see the retirement age extended to 70 in order to save Social Security and Medicare. I also expect the single payer state to set arbitrary limitations on life extending healthcare procedures for people in their 70’s. After all for the progressive state, once you are no longer productive and paying into the tax system, you immediately become a burden on society.

Citizens who have been extremely productive and thrifty over a lifetime may accumulate wealth despite increasingly onerous taxation. A leviathan state will covet these accumulated resources once the individual is no longer producing tax revenue. One way to do this is to confiscate these resources through high inheritance taxes (coming in 2013 with Taxmaggedon). State controlled healthcare will be used to accelerate end of life so the state can harvest these assets. As mentioned previously seniors above a certain age will be arbitrarily denied certain procedures. While Obama famously said you may have to take a pill instead of get an operation, there will come a time when the pain reducing pill will be denied. Hence, “end of life counseling”.

Imagine you are 82, have been denied the hip replacement, and have lived 3 or four years with pain killers to have some quality of life. At 82 the state decides not to provide the pain killer. Now your day is lived with excruciating pain and you are confined to a wheelchair for limited mobility. You have other ailments that make life difficult, perhaps arthritis in the hands for which you are denied painkillers. No doubt the health care advisors will advise you to take the final pill to end your life. You will end your suffering and do society good by eliminating the burden on your family, friends, and state. Your children, having been indoctrinated in state run schools and fearing being labeled resisters by the bureaucrats in the shadows, will also encourage you to do the right thing instead of fighting the system.

China already limits couples to one child. Some of the progressives are already writing about the need to reduce the global human population to the hundreds of millions from the billions today. To accomplish this goal it will be necessary to arbitrarily sterilize young females as well as force mass euthanasia.

The elites of today condemn religion (except Islam) and promote an “anything goes” amorality. It isn’t hard to foresee a future where they justify mass genocide for the benefit of Gaia and the greater good as they define it. The signs are already there.


39 posted on 07/03/2012 5:08:37 AM PDT by Soul of the South
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