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Conservatives to Mitt: Quit Now If You Won't Fight Obamatax!
Breitbart ^ | 7/2/12 | Joel B. Pollak

Posted on 07/02/2012 10:47:53 AM PDT by Nachum

The Obama campaign has seized on remarks made by Romney adviser Eric "Etch-A-Sketch" Fehrnstrom this morning on MSNBC, to the effect that the individual mandate in Obamacare (and Romneycare) is not a tax. Fehrnstrom allowed Chuck Todd to push him off message--and re-ignited the fears that conservatives have long had about Romney's will and ability to fight. In response, conservatives--who had just coalesced around opposition to what many now call "Obamatax": Mitt, start fighting, or give up and let someone else do it.

Fehrnstrom's point--in defense of Romneycare--was that the Supreme Court was wrong to uphold Obamacare under the taxing power. The individual mandate was never intended to be a tax, Congress never called it a tax, and it wasn't a tax in Massachusetts, either. Fine--but now that Obama's lawyers went to court and called it a tax, and Chief Justice John Roberts called it a tax (and spare us the non-distinction between "tax" and the "taxing power") Obamacare is, undeniably, a massive tax on the middle class. Obama lied. It's that simple.

The GOP primary is over, and this is not a mistake that Fehrnstrom can merely shake away. It's going to be used--and already is being used--by the Obama campaign to save itself from the tax argument, and to label Romney as a liar (when that label belongs squarely on Obama, who campaigned against Hillary Clinton's individual mandate in 2008). Perhaps this is why Rupert Murdoch has been calling openly for Romney to "drop...old friends from [his] team and hire...some real pros," as he did on Twitter yesterday.

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To: Nachum
I am still waiting for Mr. Romney to explain A) how he will "repeal" it on day one, and B) what he will "replace" it with.

I have the feeling that he will not go into any details and that the statement is simply a "sound bite" to pump up the numbed masses!

21 posted on 07/02/2012 11:16:57 AM PDT by ImpBill ("America, where are you now?" - Little "r" republican!)
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To: Paladin2

yeah, like that would stop him. Anyone here SERIOUSLY think any pledge by Romney means squat?


22 posted on 07/02/2012 11:17:39 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Nachum
"Conservatives to Mitt: Quit Now If You Won't Fight Obamatax!"

Fixed it!

Of course Rommney will fight the Obamacare tax penalty. He'll restructure it into a tax credit to do the same exact effect.

23 posted on 07/02/2012 11:18:58 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: humblegunner

If Romney were to get hit by an asteroid and eraced from the planet, am I to believe the GOP would just say “WE back OBama!” and call it a day?

Nope.

There are a number of ‘realistic’ options. Newt, Perry, Cain, Bachmann, and every other candidate who campaigned for the nomination. They were so realistic people sent them millions of dollars.

SOMEBODY out here thinks they were/are ‘realistic’.

Not you though. Only Mitt can win apparently. Hey. it’s your right to be wrong.

Oops I forgot the one who attracted the largest crowds, generated the biggest press and raised millions without even asking. And that upsets you more than all the rest of potential replacements put together.


24 posted on 07/02/2012 11:18:59 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: humblegunner

Humble, you’re being a bit daft on this one.

The poster wants Mitt to quit the race (if he’s not going to burn ObamaTax to the ground and salt the earth afterwards).

If Mitt were to read his post and quit the race (!) the convention would decide who the new GOP candidate would be.


25 posted on 07/02/2012 11:19:48 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: humblegunner
You know...if you are going to gig every other FReeper for spelling.......

"Bestest" ain't a word, HG.

26 posted on 07/02/2012 11:19:48 AM PDT by Osage Orange (8675309)
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To: myself6
At the convention, if enough of the delegates simply abstain from voting during the first round (which it is COMPLETELY “legal” and ethical to do), That will deny romny the required delegates and therefore “open up” the convention. Romnys delegates are only required to vote for him (or abstain) during the first round. After that, they can vote for whomever they choose, it doesn’t even have to be one of the folks who ran in the primary.

And you seriously think that would happen because? You have to face reality at some point. Romney didn't spend five years and millions of dollars to have it all fall apart in Tampa. He will have a small army keeping all the cats herded, and most of those cats WANT to be herded.

As much as I would like to have someone other than Romney, he is for all practical purposes the candidate now. Nothing is to be gained by wishfully thinking otherwise.

27 posted on 07/02/2012 11:20:18 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Nachum

Mitt sees Obamatax as one thing only: a stepping stone to help him into the WH. Once there, Mitt has his heart’s desire, and all bets are off.


28 posted on 07/02/2012 11:21:12 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: agere_contra
If Mitt were to read his post and quit the race (!) the convention would decide who the new GOP candidate would be.

Gee, let's see. Mitt just spent five years and millions of dollars - including a fair chunk of his own coin - winnning the nomination. Do you seriously think he would, barring an incredible scandal or serious illness, walk away from it now?

I think not.

29 posted on 07/02/2012 11:21:58 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: napscoordinator
My answers are getting answered!!!!

You never fail to provide a laugh...............

30 posted on 07/02/2012 11:23:21 AM PDT by Osage Orange (8675309)
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To: Nachum

If you haven’t yet seen (or watched in a while) Aaron Russo’s documentary, “AMERICA — From Freedom To Fascism (Full Length Documentary)” I recommend taking two hours to do so and while viewing, contemplate the narrative through the lens of the SCOTUS recent decision. Also note that Justice Roberts makes a brief appearance in this film! That was eerie. The IRS is massively expanded under ACA. Just how are we going to stop them without equal mass?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE8RtL3azDg&feature=related


31 posted on 07/02/2012 11:23:36 AM PDT by Rona Badger (Heeds the Calling Wind)
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To: Nachum
The GOP primary is over, and this is not a mistake that Fehrnstrom can merely shake away.

How is it a mistake? Despite the claims of John Roberts to the contrary, it IS a penalty, not a tax. The author of this piece is in the strange position of demanding Fehrnstrom run with Robert's distortion to score political points.

32 posted on 07/02/2012 11:25:46 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: napscoordinator

Scalia also said it is not a tax, in the dissent. Do we disagree with Scalia and agree with Roberts on this?

However, yes, Romney should consider firing this guy for stupid comments.


33 posted on 07/02/2012 11:27:51 AM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Nachum
Gotta love the last sentence of the article:Amen!
34 posted on 07/02/2012 11:28:19 AM PDT by upchuck (FACEBOOK... Share pointless stuff with friends you don't know. Beg for intrusion into your life.)
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To: txrefugee
"Murdoch was apparently underwhelmed after meeting the Mittster"

Why wouldn't he be underwhelmed? Everyone is. Everyone is with good reason. Romney sucks.

Unfortunately either he or Obama will be the next president of the USA. Who do you prefer it be?


35 posted on 07/02/2012 11:28:55 AM PDT by I see my hands (It's time to.. KICK OUT THE JAMS, MOTHER FREEPERS!)
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To: dirtboy

hate Romney. I hate him more than Obama because he tells us that he’s out friend.

But I’m very afraid that we’re going to end up splitting the vote and keeping Obama.

Romney was the worst choice that came out of the primaries. We slit our own throats there.


36 posted on 07/02/2012 11:29:42 AM PDT by Marie ("The last time Democrats gloated this hard after a health care victory, they lost 60 House seats.")
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To: Nachum
Yes, quit now mitt if you're not going to fight and get rid of OBAMATAX.
And stop this crap about replacing it with your own little pet project.
I don't want you inflicting your nonsense on me and mine.
37 posted on 07/02/2012 11:30:52 AM PDT by novemberslady
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To: Norm Lenhart
Newt, Perry, Cain, Bachmann, and every other candidate who campaigned for the nomination.

All preferable to Romney and all now lacking in organization and funds to compete.

SOMEBODY out here thinks they were/are ‘realistic’.

Yeah, focus on that "were" part. YOU lot thrashed them all in hopes of opening the road for Palin.

Not you though. Only Mitt can win apparently.

He's the only one with the machine for it at present.

Oops I forgot the one who attracted the largest crowds

Is that the same one who didn't even TRY to run?

38 posted on 07/02/2012 11:31:51 AM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo, being wily, pities the fool.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Looks like Humblegunner got the zot.

LOL.


39 posted on 07/02/2012 11:33:17 AM PDT by History Repeats (If Obama had a son, he'd have his picture hanging on the wall of the Post office wanted board.)
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To: ImpBill

Mitt’s Plan

On his first day in office, Mitt Romney will issue an executive order that paves the way for the federal government to issue Obamacare waivers to all fifty states. He will then work with Congress to repeal the full legislation as quickly as possible.

In place of Obamacare, Mitt will pursue policies that give each state the power to craft a health care reform plan that is best for its own citizens. The federal government’s role will be to help markets work by creating a level playing field for competition.

Restore State Leadership and Flexibility

Mitt will begin by returning states to their proper place in charge of regulating local insurance markets and caring for the poor, uninsured, and chronically ill. States will have both the incentive and the flexibility to experiment, learn from one another, and craft the approaches best suited to their own citizens.

Block grant Medicaid and other payments to states
Limit federal standards and requirements on both private insurance and Medicaid coverage
Ensure flexibility to help the uninsured, including public-private partnerships, exchanges, and subsidies
Ensure flexibility to help the chronically ill, including high-risk pools, reinsurance, and risk adjustment
Offer innovation grants to explore non-litigation alternatives to dispute resolution

Promote Free Markets and Fair Competition

Competition drives improvements in efficiency and effectiveness, offering consumers higher quality goods and services at lower cost. It can have the same effect in the health care system, if given the chance to work.

Cap non-economic damages in medical malpractice lawsuits
Empower individuals and small businesses to form purchasing pools
Prevent discrimination against individuals with pre-existing conditions who maintain continuous coverage
Facilitate IT interoperability

Empower Consumer Choice

For markets to work, consumers must have the information and the power to make decisions about their own care. Placing the patient at the center of the process will drive quality up and cost down while ensuring that services are designed to provide what Americans actually want.

End tax discrimination against the individual purchase of insurance
Allow consumers to purchase insurance across state lines
Unshackle HSAs by allowing funds to be used for insurance premiums
Promote “co-insurance” products
Promote alternatives to “fee for service”
Encourage “Consumer Reports”-type ratings of alternative insurance plans

http://www.mittromney.com/issues/health-care
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He has a plan and it’s not too bad. The question is can we believe him that he’ll try and implement it?


40 posted on 07/02/2012 11:35:30 AM PDT by free me (Roberts killed America)
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