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To: rogue yam
My position is that we still have the option of doing this today, and that we are far better organized for it now given the rise of the tea party movement and the development of the conservative blogosphere and twitterverse.

Yet you insist that we abandon any and all conservative principles at the bottom of the ninth, and throw all that prodigious effort toward electing a stealth Democrat.

It makes no sense. If we have that sort of power, then we ought to be ripping control of the process from the degraded and morally compromised tools who run the Republican party, and forcing the nomination of a better standard bearer to challenge Obama.

My whole pro-GOP argument all along for this election is that we promote conservatives in the primaries, then get Republicans into office on November 6th, and then work to build conservative consciousness within the GOP caucus once we have control of Congress and the White House.

If you fight to elect liberals and squish moderates, that's what the GOP will continue to give you. We've been doing it your way for over half a century, and it's done nothing but encourage and sanction the Republican party's leftward evolution.

The liberal Democrats at least stay true to their convictions. You won't find them operating under the same flawed logic as we do. Where do you ever see them compromising their principles to vote for center-right Democrat candidates? You don't. They'd rather lose by a landslide than back up a single inch on their ideological beliefs, and they demand candidates who are unbending in their allegiance to their shared ideals.

But on our side, we're told that we have to compromise to 'win'. If you continue to promote or agree with that computation, eventually you wind up voting for the other side's agenda. Whether you realize it or not - and that is exactly what is happening in this race.

The reason you're seeing so much push back against Romney on this forum, is because he's such a blatant example of the compromise I speak of. If he were simply a reliable Republican, it would be much easier to sell him to conservatives. It would be easier for him to obscure his real agenda, and gain our trust. He can't though, because his record is so clearly liberal.

Conservatives need to do more than simply hold their noses to vote for him, they need heavy drugs and electroshock therapy to blind themselves to what he truly is.

313 posted on 07/01/2012 8:41:15 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier; Jim Robinson; ejonesie22; Graybeard58; svcw
The reason you're seeing so much push back against Romney on this forum, is because he's such a blatant example of the compromise I speak of.

I agree BUT...another reason is the nasty bullying by MIttBots against Jim Robinson and every other FReeper who doesn't kiss Mitt's "Choose the Right" mormon symbol ring.

These bullies are the best advertisement for thinking that "if this an example of Romney voters, I want no part of him!"

343 posted on 07/01/2012 11:58:39 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Until the 52K LDS missionaries claiming Christian faith is bogus quit, I will post LDS truth.)
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To: Windflier
Windflier, you outdid yourself with this one. Dead on target:

We've been doing it your way for over half a century, and it's done nothing but encourage and sanction the Republican party's leftward evolution....

Where do you ever see [the Democrats] compromising their principles to vote for center-right Democrat candidates? You don't. They'd rather lose by a landslide than back up a single inch on their ideological beliefs, and they demand candidates who are unbending in their allegiance to their shared ideals.

But on our side, we're told that we have to compromise to 'win'. If you continue to promote or agree with that computation, eventually you wind up voting for the other side's agenda. Whether you realize it or not - and that is exactly what is happening in this race.

BUMP TO THE TOP.

362 posted on 07/01/2012 5:24:59 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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