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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
"Sorry, we lost that in 1865."

You are probably thinking about secession...I'm not. I'm talking about the Individual States just not cooperating with a legislative law. That is nullification.

Plus, this is not the 1860's. No one in this age has the stomach for such. If enough States say they won't play to Obama's over-reach of their rights, then that will be the beginning of the end of absolute Fedgov control.

No one is going to civil or revolutionary war over this. It will be a matter of gamesmanship and who politically backs down first. I believe it will be the Fedgov, providing enough States are involved.

Arizona, Georgia (Alabama?) and many others have and are going to pass laws against Obambicare. Plus, many have and are passing laws against illegal immigration. Plus, many are passing new CCW and/or open carry laws. The States are currently re-enforcing their rights as I read almost every day.

The States are fed up. They are on the move. I really doubt that the some 26 States that sued the Fedgov over Obamacare are going to go "quietly into the good night" without a fight.

Again, the USSC gave the States (probably unknowingly) quite a weapon against Fedgov control with the majority opinion of over-reach for the "commerce clause". Here is our chance to reassert States' Rights!

STATES' RIGHTS!
Support Your State Governor Who Supports States' Rights.

23 posted on 06/28/2012 9:26:51 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: A Navy Vet

I appreciate your post. I appreciate that some states are fighting back. I like the trend.

All I meant is that since the Civil War, the states have lost most of their sovereignty, and I’m sure I don’t need to explain this to you.

How many of the 50 states can tell the USA that they refuse to comply with the Americans with Disabilities Act in forcing businesses to add handicap ramps for buildings and little wheelchair ramps for curb intersections? None, I think.

How many can tell the EPA that you can fill in a wetland with impunity? None I think.

How many states can tell the EPA to go stuff it and that they aren’t going to comply with the Migratory Bird Treaty? None I think.

EPA is preventing drilling for oil in some states and coal exploration in others.

How many state can ban abortion? I understand none can as this was codified as a 1st amendment right in Roe.

This is what I meant when I said the states haven’t had rights since the Civil War. The amount of true state sovereignty is very very small today relative to the pre-civil war era. That is all I meant.

If I am wrong about that, then I apologize but that is my perception. Just as our personal property rights have been massively diminished in the past 150 years, the right of states to self-determination has been massively diminished as well.


24 posted on 06/28/2012 10:14:09 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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