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1 posted on 06/26/2012 8:49:12 AM PDT by xzins
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To: P-Marlowe; blue-duncan

Could states rely on multiple illegalities to detain illegals? For example, if a speeder is also guilty of failure to pay child support, or failure to pay parking fines, can he not be detained?

Being illegally in the country is more egregious than failure to pay child support.

Could laws be revised to simply state that multiple offenses warrant detention of suspects with illegal immigration simply being one of many that would qualify?

Or, how about the multiple illegality of falsely utilizing state services?


2 posted on 06/26/2012 8:50:25 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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A congress with any stones would defund any agency which demonstrates a desire to aid and abet in law breaking.


5 posted on 06/26/2012 8:56:24 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: xzins

When a government fails to govern any longer..
it is time to toss thaty gubamint on the trash heap.

November, bring gloves and shovels.


6 posted on 06/26/2012 8:57:38 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: xzins

whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within. - Declaration of Independence


8 posted on 06/26/2012 9:06:00 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: xzins
This looks like a pretty accurate summation. Limbaugh was expressing great frustration yesterday at Robert's support of striking down the State's Rights sections of the Arizona immigration act. Unfortunately for RH and many right side GOPers the CJ was just supporting a long held central belief of the GOP. The states have no rights in any conflict with the national government is what it boils down to. If there are Freepers who dislike this then blame A. Lincoln and his party. The GOP has always been the party of nationalism and centralization. The donkeys just arrived late to those conclusions with Bryan, Wilson & Co.

Of more interest is the question of a return to the basic question of 1860. What happens when a state or group of states declares that certain federal acts are non binding on them and they will not recognize their legality. This question will, I think, retuen in the not distant future as regardless of the fate of Obamacare or the fate of Obama this year the centralizers and libs will never let go of their vision of a European style centralized state and all that goes with that. A real conflict of ‘visions’ is coming. All that is needed is the right piece of federal power grabbing and a governor or two with real political beliefs and the guts to back them up.

10 posted on 06/26/2012 9:13:41 AM PDT by robowombat
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I have read that DHS only rescinded 287(g) with AZ, leaving it in place for all other states. If so, this is petty revenge, and could be spun that way against him.

Further, I see nothing wrong with giving illegals a 1-way plane tickets (screw buses, they can get off) to Chicago or the District of Criminals. Let THEM deal with it.


13 posted on 06/26/2012 9:24:28 AM PDT by Ancesthntr (Bibi to Odumbo: Its not going to happen.)
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White House A Sore Winner On Arizona Ruling

Posted 06/25/2012 07:07 PM ET

The Law: If there’s any doubt the Supreme Court upheld the most substantial elements of Arizona’s law to enforce U.S. immigration law, take a look at the scorched-earth response from the Obama administration to punish the state.

The Supreme Court voted 8-0 Monday to uphold a key provision of Arizona’s S.B. 1070 that requires state troopers to check the immigration status of people suspected of being in the U.S. illegally after they’ve been caught committing other crimes.


But after the Obama administration and its media allies crowed that the court ruling was a win, their fury over their loss on the one provision became obvious.

Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano announced that the administration would cut off ties to Arizona’s police and end provisions of seven 287(g) task force agreements that gave some Arizona police agencies powers to enforce immigration laws.

The vindictive, disproportionate response effectively isolates the state in terms of being far more stringent than anything the administration has inflicted on Burma, North Korea or Iran.....

http://news.investors.com/articleprint/616095/201206251907/obama-administration-exacts-revenge-on-arizona-for-winning-court-ruling.aspx


18 posted on 06/26/2012 9:30:46 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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It’s time for AZ to buy some buses and offer free transportation for illegals to DC. Buses leaving daily.


21 posted on 06/26/2012 9:36:31 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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Time to rally behind Arizona.

Time to show Obama exactly who America backs in this fight.

Buy a ballcap -— Diamondbacks, Cardinals, Sun Devils or newly-crowned NCAA baseball champion Wildcats -— and wear it everywhere you go.

If your Wal-mart doesn’t stock any of them, take the time to make a request that they do.

This is a “big f——— deal”, folks.


23 posted on 06/26/2012 9:47:29 AM PDT by Walrus (ICH BIN EIN ARIZONAN!)
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To: xzins

Section 4 - Republican government

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.

Any questions?


27 posted on 06/26/2012 11:20:29 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: xzins

The simplest thing to do when dealing with illegal immigrants. That the feds will not deport. AZ should build large detainment centers of tents and hold the illegal immigrants in them. Until the feds deport them. Bill the feds for the cost of doing their job.


31 posted on 06/26/2012 1:24:26 PM PDT by DMG2FUN
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