Posted on 06/23/2012 1:22:21 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Florida's "Stand Your Ground" law is complicating matters for prosecutors rushing to convict George Zimmerman. The law is clear that residents can meet force with force when they feel threatened.
Florida's Stand Your Ground law allows residents to use deadly force to defend themselves or their property, and when doing so, protects them from prosecution. This law may derail the prosecution of defendant George Zimmerman in the much-publicized case of a neighborhood watch volunteer who shot and killed teenager Trayvon Martin.
State prosecutors see the case as open-and-shut, arguing that Martin was simply a kid buying a soda at a convenience store. When Zimmerman called 911 to report a suspicious individual, police told him to stand down until they arrived; he did not.
While authorities note that the one possibly threatening detail about Trayvon Martin was a simple hooded sweatshirt, George Zimmerman claims that Martin physically attacked him.
Florida's Stand Your Ground law is clear: an individual has no duty to retreat from a public confrontation in which he or she reasonably perceives a danger. As the Miami Herald notes, Floridians are allowed to "meet force with force." In fact, Zimmerman was not initially arrested by police at all for this very reason.
And, the law receives strong support. A recent Quinnipiac University poll finds support for the state law at 56 percent, with only 35 percent opposed to it.
While he was eventually charged with second degree murder, state prosecutors have no easy task to explain why Stand Your Ground should not apply to George Zimmerman. In fact, anyone facing charges of murder or homicide in Florida should discuss their situation with an experienced criminal defense attorney who will hold the prosecution accountable for proving their case at every step and ensure the defendant's rights under state law are respected.
Of course with a coroner's inquest somebody is dead and the circumstances surrounding that death can be explored ... sorry to be short but a "Honey Do" list awaits.
Still in case of death or serious injury in a self defense case an inquest format might be a good idea except WIKI: Inquest notes that the defendant isn't allowed to present a defense at that stage but an addition to SYG law could be made to outline the actual procedures required or allowed.
Oops - missed the actual post button - sorry - just de-sweatifying after a little chainsawing when I missed my last post to you.
Good point. It is a little surreal.
Yep -- there must be something in the sand on that beach.
How accessible the holstered gun would have been to GZ or TM depends upon how high TM had to sit on top of GZ in order to administer the beating. Being that there was a 4 inch height difference between them, added to a longer arm reach, TM could have been sitting on his hips and still reaching his head with his fists with the gun thus fully accessible to either of them at any time.
Furthermore by shifting his weight from left leg to right leg, the gun would have then been even more accessible for either of them.
Also the video fails to mention that the bullet, fired at intermediate range [1 to 18 inches] never exited the body, meaning that the shot would have thrust the body backwards significantly.
The videos are a pathetic attempt by the Crump team and those who front for him here on FR to make what's up look like it's down. But it won't work.
It would appear so. Googling the word turns up only his post and nothing else.
Actually, the relevant part of the SYG statute is not about standing your ground. Rather, it's a provision for a pre-trial hearing after which a fair judge can toss the whole case, including any right to sue, if he finds the preponderance of the evidence favors the defendant. But the article didn't mention that.
Thanks Cboldt!
What is a short definition of “Florida’s open book discovery rules”?
You can depose anyone on the other’s witness list? What can you subpoena?
Anyone with statements in a police report? Any officer filing a report on the case?
Inquiring minds and all that ... thanks in advance if you have the time ... just a broad outline would be great! ;-)
You are free, of course, to make further requests for my opinion and remarks, but just to let you know, I won't be replying.
Oh well - thanks for the link to FL Discovery law. Just defining "open book" would have been helpful.
1) Would you hit it?
a) Lazmataz
2) What's the general rundown on this FL law issue?
a) Cboldt
Thanks for your previous input ... I won't tell anyone that I think you're bailing because I said you were wrong once. ;-)
And you can keep your Women and Children BS in the RAT camp.
See, even your argument is cause for someone not to get involved and
the strawman argument is just that.
So you can ramp up the possibilities like killing cute little pink bunny
rabbits that only poop skittles all you want.
Thank you for the kind compliments relating to my previous remarks. I'll still be hanging around and commenting from time to time.
That’s kind of what this article implies, isn’t it?
Dont Talk to Police
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc
Dunno. But if they try, prosecution will certainly introduce the fact that George was using amphetamine.
You mean Adderal, right??? and by prescription under physician's directions, right??? The defense has nothing to fear. On the other hand the prosecution still won't release TM's urine test. What's in it that they don't want the public to know???
They haven't released Zimmerman's blood work or urine test either. Oops, my bad, they forgot to take his blood and urine samples.
BTW, try sitting/squatting/kneeling on someone’s hips (groin area) and see where your knees are ...
Yup, that’s mine.. I find that the word stymies race racketeers and their allies..
I liked some of Zappa’s really early stuff..the word melanometricist refers to a person who is obsessed with race..
Exactly. It is widely used for sleep, and ameliorates the side effects of Adderal, and it is used by the United States Air Force to help aviators and special duty personnel sleep in support of mission readiness.
Oops, my bad, they forgot to take his blood and urine samples.
Oops your bad, they didn't forget. They didn't have to. The law didn't require it of GZ. It does, however, require TM's urine be taken and tested for his autopsy. So then where is it and what street drugs were tested for???
BTW, try sitting/squatting/kneeling on someone’s hips (groin area) and see where your knees are
If I'm sitting on someone pummelling them and want to get my hand in his pocket or access a side holster, all I have to do is shift my weight to the knee on one side and spread the other knee apart a little. It's done all the time on crime dramas.
But you're right on one thing though: until TM on top shifted his weight and spread his leg apart, the gun would have been difficult for GZ or TM to grab. All of which proves GZ's account that TM went for the gun first. In doing so and shifting his body and moving his leg in the process, GZ was able to get at it as well. Had TM not gone after the gun, GZ wouldn't have been able to reach it, and TM would be alive today, and GZ probably in the hospital in a coma from a fractured skull.
Those video producers need to watch more Mannix reruns or Hawaii 5-O's before producing another one of their propaganda films. BTW Is there a 4th one in the works???
The reason every teenager, college kid, and meth head suddenly has ADHD.
Teenager: I take it and I've lost 15 pounds without even trying. It's amazing!College kid: Sweet, I took eighteen classes this semester and got an A+ in all of them! And now I can get completely plastered without getting tired! Thanks, Adderall.
Meth addict: As soon as I got my script for it, I didn't even need meth anymore. Sayonara rehab!
Zimmerman takes it 3 times a day ...
Uppers and downers, like a see-saw.
TV crime dramas are from the land of make-believe.
The guy has lots more videos -- visit his channel.
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