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To: rstrahan
No one is saying you don't have the right to take your own life. Outside of religious constraints, you most certainly do have that right based on the actual ability to do it.

What you DO NOT have the right to do is compel the greater society to be complicit and to help procure your death.

What I never understood about the pro euthanasia position is that no one prevents you from killing yourself. Buy a gun, jump off a bridge, step in front of an on coming train, buy some rat poison, stock up on pain killers. Just don't make your doctor provide you with the means to your own destruction and don't expect the rest of society to accept and cheer your cowardice.

Man up already!

The acceptance of Abortion on demand, euthanasia leads directly to the forced killing of those found ‘lacking’ or ‘undeserving’ of life by the greater society.

8 posted on 06/21/2012 4:06:19 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Jim from C-Town; rstrahan

>>What you DO NOT have the right to do is compel the greater society to be complicit and to help procure your death.<<

Well, that isn’t really being discussed here. I didn’t see rstrahan (nor have I) ask society or anyone else to assist in personal demise. Should doctors whose conscience is clear in providing assistance for such an act (not subsidized by insurance or Medicare) decide to do so, there should be no impediments, either.

And as of this moment, attempted suicide is illegal in most jurisdictions (FWIU).


10 posted on 06/21/2012 4:11:58 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Guns Walked -- People Died -- Holder Lied -- Obama Golfed (thanks, Secret Agent Man))
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To: Jim from C-Town
What I never understood about the pro euthanasia position is that no one prevents you from killing yourself. Buy a gun, jump off a bridge, step in front of an on coming train, buy some rat poison, stock up on pain killers. Just don't make your doctor provide you with the means to your own destruction and don't expect the rest of society to accept and cheer your cowardice.

Kind of hard to do when, like the guy in the article, you are totally paralyzed.

22 posted on 06/21/2012 4:39:32 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Jim from C-Town
“What I never understood about the pro euthanasia position is that no one prevents you from killing yourself. Buy a gun,jump off a bridge,step in front of an on coming train,buy some rat poison,stock up on pain killers. Just don't make your doctor provide you with the means to your own destruction and don't expect the rest of society to accept and cheer your cowardice. Man up already!”

Yea, tell that to someone in constant unimaginable pain who gets force-fed through a tube, can't control a wheelchair and can't even dream because of all the drugs.

If it happens to me, I hope there will be someone man enough to help end my suffering quietly, painlessly and cleanly. Being useless and constantly suffering with no hope of improving is far, far more frightening to me than death.

I'm man enough to do it myself but it's physically IMPOSSIBLE if you are that disabled. If I needed help and could prove my intent to die, I wouldn't want that person prosecuted.

42 posted on 06/21/2012 6:38:50 PM PDT by varyouga
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