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To: Windflier

There’s a huge gulf between your”...Republican dominated Congress”....

and my posted “...Big C Conservative Congress...”

Never known you to set up strawman arguements before.....you OK?

But you’re right... a North East Republican dominated congress, full of Olympia Snowe types, would roll over readily for a “belly rub”from the likes of Romney.....That’s why primaries are so important....

Still it might help to read a post throughly......especially if it contains qualifiers.....BTW....I don’t smoke....anything.


182 posted on 06/17/2012 6:16:13 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry bear formerly known as..........Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: Forty-Niner
There’s a huge gulf between your”...Republican dominated Congress”.... and my posted “...Big C Conservative Congress...”

Well, planting my feet firmly in the soil of Reality, I'd say that a Republican dominated Congress is a lot more likely in the present, than your "Big C Conservative" Congress. We're gaining ground in that direction, but it's going to be some time before we see such a thing in the real world.

The above disqualifies my statement as a 'strawman argument'. The type of Congress I describe is quite likely to be the actual case, come January 2013.

...a North East Republican dominated congress, full of Olympia Snowe types, would roll over readily for a “belly rub”from the likes of Romney...

Now you're making a caricature out of my statement.

It doesn't take a Congress filled with liberal Republicans such as Olympia Snowe, for the whole body to roll over for a Republican president. Plenty of so-called conservative Republican congress critters rolled over for Dubya's statist legislative initiatives. So did the so-called 'moderate' Republicans. Naturally, liberal squishes like Collins and Snowe enthusiastically supported those liberal initiatives.

In case you hadn't noticed, conservatives have been burned time and time again by congress critters who we entrusted to hold the line on bigger government and encroaching Socialism. I've lost count of how many of them have learned to pillow talk conservatives, while simultaneously stabbing us in the back in the halls of DC.

The better these weasels learn to play that game, the more they're rewarded with federal pork for their districts and powerful committee assignments. Playing ball with the DC powers that be, is obviously intoxicating and highly addictive. In time, even decent legislators are turned into compromised foot soldiers for the corrupt oligarchy, and are forever lost to the people.

Frankly, I'd say that the seeds for such compromise are firmly implanted in these people long before they arrive in DC. It's pretty hard to climb the political ladder if you're not already showing signs that you're a 'company man' (or woman).

It's only recently that the people have been galvanized enough to fully organize, fund, and push honest citizen candidates to a win in congressional elections. That's the Tea at work, and it's a worrisome development for the old entrenched political machine. New arrivals such as Allen West have proven to the old guard that the power has always been vested in The People, and that we can replace them at will if they piss us off badly enough.

But there aren't nearly enough of that type in Congress yet, to break apart the standard business model of Washington DC. The kind of Congress we both hope and pray for is coming, but we've got a lot of work ahead to put them there. For now, I would caution against placing too much faith in what a Republican dominated Congress will do when faced with a Republican president's agenda.

184 posted on 06/17/2012 7:07:34 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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