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Are we sure that dad who beat his daughter’s molester to death was engaged in self-defense?
http://hotair.com/archives/2012/06/13/texas-civil-rights-group-are-we-sure-that-dad-who-beat-his-daughters-molester-to-death-was-engaged-in-self-defense/ ^

Posted on 06/13/2012 5:25:29 PM PDT by chessplayer

Via the Blaze. Four words, my friends: Trial of the century.

"James Harrington, director of the Texas Civil Rights Project, an Austin-based nonprofit group, questioned the father’s decision to “summarily execute” the alleged molester without due process."

“Assuming it’s true that this guy was molesting the daughter, and we don’t know what exactly happened at this point, he would then have the right to defend [her], and hit him enough to have him stop,” Harrington told FoxNews.com. “But you cannot summarily execute him, even though I can understand the anger he would have.”

"Without specific knowledge of the case, Harrington said he was “surprised” that the girl’s father had not been already charged."

Harrington continued: “The question is: When does it move beyond self-defense?”

That’s what I was getting at in last night’s post about the difference between self-defense and punishment. Self-defense entitles you to neutralize your attacker; once he’s been neutralized, you’re not really defending yourself anymore, you’re just kicking the crap out of him. Imagine that the dad here saw his daughter being molested and knocked the guy unconscious with one right hook to the jaw. Boom — he’s neutralized. If he continues to beat him after that in a blind rage, that’s more like voluntary manslaughter than self-defense. More from the Christian Post:


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To: Krankor
Killing horses for insurance fraud is a big business in the U.S. I know about it because I read.

I am sure that you have also read about buildings burning down for insurance. There is much more arson for insurance, than horse breeders killing their own horses.

Source for your misinformation, about the horse breeding industry.

61 posted on 06/13/2012 6:54:38 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: rbg81
The grand jury will be tasked with this. The little girls story is crucial. At 4, children typically speak truthful unless led otherwise.

I'm a lil biased......I hate child sex predators. They are the scum of the earth.

62 posted on 06/13/2012 6:56:06 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: rbg81

there needs to be a hard look at the facts of the case.

There has been. Go find the newspaper accounts from earlier in the week and stop giving any credence to these outfits that back the perps in any crime. There were witnesses, the child went to the hospital, and the beatdown wasn’t to the point of crushing a skull or anything


63 posted on 06/13/2012 6:57:33 PM PDT by Figment
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To: Oldexpat
speaking of that..do we have an ID yet on the dead perp?

Last day or so, I read here that his family was in [are you ready] Mexico and had not been notified yet.

64 posted on 06/13/2012 7:01:01 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (It's time to take out the trash in DC.)
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To: Irish Eyes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horse_murders


65 posted on 06/13/2012 7:10:50 PM PDT by Krankor
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To: chessplayer
I dunno. Was the deceased carrying Skittles and Iced Tea?

NO cheers, unfortunately.

Luke 17:2, Mark 9:42

66 posted on 06/13/2012 7:14:49 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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Here's a updated report. Her brother witnessed the attack and went to go get her father. I guess there wasn't any insurance fraud involved unless the father got the kids to lie too..... < / sarcasm >

Should the TX Father Who Killed his daughter's suspected molested face charges

Rick Folbaum recounted the details of the story saying that the alleged molester was reportedly an acquaintance of the father and was helping him take care of some horses on the property. The young girl and her brother were helping their father by feeding chickens when the apparent attack took place. The little brother ran to tell his father, who upon finding the man reportedly molesting the little girl, beat him to death.

67 posted on 06/13/2012 7:17:03 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: chessplayer

So far we know almost no details of the event regarding the medical examiner’s report regarding the girl or the deceased. Until then all is speculation.


68 posted on 06/13/2012 7:23:43 PM PDT by deport
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To: chessplayer

Well, a lot of these points are moot, because this happened in Texas. There, he’s got so many points on his side, I doubt they will charge him with anything.

First, they have very strong self-defense protections, and this was on his property, so he gets and additional legal advantage from that fact. Even if he went beyond the scope of self-defense, he can appeal to a crime of passion defense, which Texans tend to be sympathetic too. Top that off with the fact that he killed a child molester, and there’s no way in hell he could get convicted down there, at least outside of some liberal area like Austin.


69 posted on 06/13/2012 7:52:33 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: 2nd amendment mama
The father should face one charge of littering. However, after the perp's body was carted away there is no longer any evidence of littering (the mess has been cleaned up) so the judge should dismiss the ticket.
70 posted on 06/13/2012 7:58:18 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Krankor
I do not usually believe everything I read in Wikipedia but ,I do agree this looks bad.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horse_murders

My extensive background is with the Thoroughbred Racing industry

71 posted on 06/13/2012 8:13:46 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: 2nd amendment mama
Gee, I wonder who supplied these details. Duh...probably the father. It's certainly possible the horse trainer came across the two kids feeding chickens and decided to molest the little girl as the little boy ran off shouting, "I'm gonna go get my daddy." Not understanding English, the trainer probably thought the kid said, "I'm gonna go get a Coke.You guys want anything?" Or the father could have approached the trainer and said, "I'm almost broke and I need money, so I need your help to electrocute one of my horses and claim the insurance money." The trainer could have responded, "No way, Mel Torme! I'm gonna tell the cops." The father then beat him to death to shut him up.
72 posted on 06/13/2012 8:14:27 PM PDT by Krankor
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To: Irish Eyes
damn, and you'd think it was obvious...
73 posted on 06/13/2012 8:18:16 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: chessplayer

“James Harrington, director of the Texas Civil Rights Project, an Austin-based nonprofit group, questioned the father’s decision to “summarily execute” the alleged molester without due process.”

This one statement tells me that it was probably justified. The key words .... an Austin-based nonprofit group.


74 posted on 06/13/2012 8:24:36 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: chessplayer

Texas Civil Rights Project sounds like a left wing “Criminal Rights” organization

Even a prosecutor as dumb and Thug Nazi as Angela Corey would not charge the father. Try getting re-elected as the “prosecutor who supports child molestation”


75 posted on 06/13/2012 8:27:12 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Obama really was not born in Kenya...he was born in Greece. Look at the economy)
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To: Krankor
Are you a fiction writer? If not, you should be. You certainly can make up great stories......can you say delusional?

Do you know the Father who protected his daughter? What do you have against him that would prompt you to make up such crap?

76 posted on 06/13/2012 8:32:32 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

I said to investigate and try to learn if there was a problem between the two men. But if the guy was fondling the daughter he should have been killed.


77 posted on 06/13/2012 9:09:25 PM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." - Peter Grifin, FAMILY GUY)
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To: chessplayer
He's guilty of unnecessary roughness and should be penalized 15 yards plus loss of down.
78 posted on 06/13/2012 9:23:49 PM PDT by MCF
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To: Ronin
Yeah, but when you read that a freeper used 'homicide in the public interest' as a defence... remember that you coined it. ;)

/johnny

79 posted on 06/13/2012 9:35:13 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Krankor
You certainly do have an imagination about America, don't you?

Life aint' TV.

Come visit. I'll give you space in the barn.

/johnny

80 posted on 06/13/2012 9:44:09 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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