[xzins]

... Obama would have no power at all if it were not given to him by God. Do you agree with that statement?

No, for the following reason:

It grieves me deeply, Sister, to see you argue against 2000 years of obvious Christian teaching and 6,000 years of obvious Judeo-Christian teaching.

There is no historic Christian denomination that believes what you just rejected, nor is there any doubt that the Bible teaches the omnipotence and omniscience and omnipresence of God.

Very clearly this is not about the free will of individuals but is instead about the guiding power of God. As the Apostle Paul so eloquently said in Athens:

Acts 17:24 "The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by hands. 25 And he is not served by human hands, as if he needed anything, because he himself gives all men life and breath and everything else. 26 From one man he made every nation of men, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he determined the times set for them and the exact places where they should live. 27 God did this so that men would seek him and perhaps reach out for him and find him, though he is not far from each one of us.

So, the rise and fall of NATIONS is part of God's plan to have people seek HIM. There are so many examples.

17 The God of the people of Israel chose our fathers; he made the people prosper during their stay in Egypt, with mighty power he led them out of that country, 18 he endured their conduct for about forty years in the desert, 19 he overthrew seven nations in Canaan and gave their land to his people as their inheritance. 20 All this took about 450 years.

Let God be true and every man a liar.

[betty boop]

It grieves me deeply, Sister, to see you argue against 2000 years of obvious Christian teaching and 6,000 years of obvious Judeo-Christian teaching.... There is no historic Christian denomination that believes what you just rejected.

What have I "rejected?"

..."2000 years of obvious Christian teaching and 6,000 years of obvious Judeo-Christian teaching"???

Good grief, I strongly doubt that!!! Why would I do a thing like that, which would be tantamount to denying the very ground of being on which I stand?

Methinks you are imputing to me motives that are not my own, in a sort of "projection" of internal ideas which are solely your own, onto me as a sort of "target" or "object lesson."

For what purpose?

[betty boop]

Let God be true and every man a liar.

Sounds good to me.