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In Case You Don't Like Romney... A Challenge To Every FReeper
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Posted on 06/13/2012 2:03:43 PM PDT by MindBender26

In Case You Don't Like Romney...

Columnist Andrew McCarthy gives us what probably is the most important question regarding the upcoming presidential election …

“If Romney wins the nomination, as seems very likely, I will enthusiastically support his candidacy. For my friends who may have hesitation on that score, I’d just ask you to keep four things in mind:

1.. Justice Scalia just turned 78

2.. Justice Kennedy will turn 78 later this year

3.. Justice Breyer will be 76 in August

4.. Justice Ginsburg turned 81 about a week ago and has had cancer twice.

Whoever we elect as president in November is almost certainly going to choose at least one and maybe more new members of the Supreme Court — in addition to hundreds of other life-tenured federal judges, all of whom will be making momentous decisions about our lives for decades to come.

If you don’t think it matters whether the guy making those calls is Mitt Romney or Barack Obama, I think you’re smokin’ something funky….”

So for anybody who is thinking of not voting because your favorite didn’t get nominated, or writing in a candidate who can't win ... just imagine this possibility:

'SUPREME COURT JUSTICE ERIC HOLDER'

Did that get your attention!


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To: svcw
Hey, you want to be on the BBQ list?

Hey, I'll bring the Stubbs!


1,021 posted on 06/16/2012 8:19:54 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: Norm Lenhart
In all seriousness however, The congress they will not reel in someone like Obama will surely give a free hand to ‘one of their own. You still believe that Romney is incapable of simmilar actions when his record is crystal clear that he is. You have also not addressed that Obama’s pre election history was one of nothing. His senate/state career was as hollow as a beach ball. But Romney’s was not. He has a head start and has repeatedly shown the desire to ignore his voters and legislate to appease special interests/donors.

To put such man in power with a castrated congress and thinking he will somehow magically repent of his prior governance is a fantasy, Lake. But he will win. And we are all going to discover which of us is right.

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Yes, and I suspect that by that time, we will all sadly be in agreement about Romney.

1,022 posted on 06/16/2012 8:32:26 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: bramps; xzins

March 2012

Romney said: “Of course you get rid of Obamacare, that’s the easy one, but there are others,” he said. “Planned Parenthood, we’re going to get rid of that.”

Romney’s spokesman Fehrnstrom said: “It would not be getting rid of the organization,” “We’re going to have to make some tough decisions about spending. The test that Mitt Romney will apply is, is this program so worthwhile and valuable that we’ll borrow money from China to [fund] it?”


April 2012

Romney said: “You get rid of Obamacare, but there are others,” Romney the station. “Planned Parenthood, we’re gonna get rid of that.”

Romney’s chief adviser Gillespie: said: My point — look, people can disagree with that, but it’s not fair to say not having federal funding for Planned Parenthood is defunding Planned Parenthood.


So bramps, are you sure?


1,023 posted on 06/16/2012 8:33:30 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: svcw
I love that Romney just announces “call me pro-life”, sorry that does not make you pro-life.

But, but, he says he's SEVERELY CONSERVATIVE! < / MittWitt off >

1,024 posted on 06/16/2012 8:40:56 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: trisham

As soon as the GOP adopted the divide/conquer strategy of the Dems, the outcome was cast in stone.

This is classic stuff. Start at zero. Push to 50 with Prez 1. Go back to 25 with Prez 2. Net ‘gain’ 25. Prez 3 takes it to 75. Prex 4 back to 50. Net gain 50. And so forth.

We MUST vote for the even #s or we are called tratiors and crazy because look at the great things they do in rolling back the insanity of the dems!!!

This is incrementalism and most are blind to it. It’s SOP for local/state/feds. It’s SOP for greens. Communists, and every other org working on the principles of social engineering and ‘change.’

People think that Romney is going to ‘at least undo a lot of the Obama stuff’. Right there they have already accepted that he won’t undo it all and adopted the ‘better some than none’ mindset. So next time, they will accept a little more...and neat more...

I marvel at the lack of critical thought displayed by OBOs. They are cutting their own throats and happy to do so.


1,025 posted on 06/16/2012 8:47:00 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

Romney is simply slicker and smarter than Obama. Those who are “OBO” seem to ignore that one of the most potentially destructive pieces of legislation in our country’s history, “Obamacare”, was modeled after “Romneycare”.


1,026 posted on 06/16/2012 8:56:31 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

What frustrate me more than anything is people clinging like a Bokun to a VooDoo totem to the “He’s not Obama”. Well NFS Sherlock. Ever stop and think about what he IS???

The level of Self deception RE Romney/Obamacare is staggering. As is the “He said he’s XXXX”. Since did what someone says overrule what they actually do?

Would any of the ABO types (I typoed ;) for a nanosecond hire a pedo to watch their kids because he ‘said’ he’s not that way anymore? I doubt it.

Would they hire a bank robber.forger to run their cash register after he said he’s honest now? I doubt it.

But those very same people are saying that we should support the grandfather of Obamacare because he said he’ll kill off his grandson. How freaking mindless is that ‘logic’?

I am losing more faith by the day in the supposed ‘intelligence’ of conservatives. Because I am not seeing much of it displayed. They ignore logic, history and demonstrated fact and instead, embrace magical thinking where none of that enters the decision process.

And “WE” are the problem....


1,027 posted on 06/16/2012 9:07:59 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: bramps; SoConPubbie; svcw; P-Marlowe; cripplecreek

Sorry, bramps, my faith makes it impossible for me to go there.

Just in the last 2 months Romney has come out in support in gay couples, and not only that, he thinks that at the state level they should be able to adopt children. Moreover, just at the turn of the year he came out favoring gays in the military saying he’ll do nothing to change that.

So far as politicians and their promises, there’s no way he’ll be in the position to either end planned parenthood or overturn roe v wade. You are talking a majority republican senate with no rinos. That won’t happen, he knows it, and so simply to appear conservative he made those statements during the primary. He is already drifting left for the general election, and yesterday was unwilling to back up his earlier tough talk on immigration.

Do you remember when he excoriated Rick Perry for saying essentially what Obama said yesterday? Not now. Now he wants to drift left.

So, he has a pro-abortion record, and he has recently endorsed the homosexual agenda. Either of those mean I have to choose between Romney/Obama or my God. Let God be true and every man a liar.

I will be among the remnant that votes for a conservative in this race.

Supreme Court justices retire when a president to their liking is in power. I’m surprised that Ginsberg hasn’t retired. In other words, she doesn’t fear Romney either.

Scalia won’t retire with a liberal president in power, and definitely not if it’s Obama.

Your justice talk, though, should make you livid with republicans over the McCain fiasco. They ran a loser knowing that Scotus was on the verge of tipping conservative with just one more appointment. Their answer was to (intentionally?) run a loser.

That’s because the GOP-E is liberal and always has been. Romney’s record of judicial appointments, btw, is pro-abortion selections.


1,028 posted on 06/16/2012 9:13:58 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Many Romney supporters have enthusiastically supported Romney before just as they are now. They only use the ABO excuse to do it now because it's convenient.

These people are not conservative. Take the one in this thread, for instance. She said she isn't opposed to gay marriage and would support it. See post# 948 in this thread. That screams liberal.

1,029 posted on 06/16/2012 9:17:41 AM PDT by South40
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To: svcw

Please add me to the bbq list. I like my rips smoked, btw. :>)


1,030 posted on 06/16/2012 9:20:13 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

Done
Someone said they would bring STUBBS, can’t remember who but thanks!!!!


1,031 posted on 06/16/2012 9:23:58 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: South40

Absolutely true. But none dare call it what it is. Or few of us. Because they don’t want to ‘offend’ their online FRiends. Sure smells a lot like the way libs operate to me.


1,032 posted on 06/16/2012 9:27:35 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart
I marvel at the lack of critical thought displayed by OBOs. They are cutting their own throats and happy to do so.

As long as they can say he's "not Obama", the Republican Party can throw leftists at us, and sadly, far too many good-natured conservatives fall for it. Frightened by what they see, they turn to the latest GOP-E Blue Fairy to rescue them. And every four years, our nation continues its descent away from liberty to velvet-gloved tyranny. The DemocRATs want pedal-to-the-metal; rather than throwing it into reverse, the GOP establishment wants it forward just a little bit slower.

Romney is the latest Blue Fairy - "he's not Obama!".


1,033 posted on 06/16/2012 9:32:10 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: svcw

It’s a private organization. He can’t get rid of it. But he can go a long way to stopping them from receiving federal funds used. With Obama, no chance of that. And that’s just for starters. Imagine Obama unleashed with another one or two supreme court picks. I’d joke that he be especially dangerous because he knows it’s his last term. But I’m not sure that wouldn’t change if he’s re-elected. Please wake me when this nightmare disguised as a thread is over.


1,034 posted on 06/16/2012 9:42:11 AM PDT by bramps (Newt was the one, but Romney will do.)
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To: Norm Lenhart
I am losing more faith by the day in the supposed ‘intelligence’ of conservatives. Because I am not seeing much of it displayed. They ignore logic, history and demonstrated fact and instead, embrace magical thinking where none of that enters the decision process.

And “WE” are the problem....

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They're terrified, for which I have sympathy, but ignoring Romney's history isn't going to make it go away. I remember talking to an older, liberal woman about Obama in 2008, shortly after the election. I asked her how she could have voted for him, given what he had promised to do. "Oh", she said merrily, "he didn't really MEAN that!".

With Romney, we have a history. A history that doesn't support what he claims to believe, that doesn't support what he claims to be.

1,035 posted on 06/16/2012 9:51:56 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

It’s really no different than muslim apologists that don’t believe they ‘really’ want to kill infidels or that they don’t ‘really’ mean Jews are pigs when they say it in clear, unclouded terms. Then are shocked at terrorism and antisemitism.

And now an ABO will get into a tizzy because I made that comparison. Well? It’s the same ‘logic’ so why shouldn’t I? I’m not particularly concerned with soothing their consciences or making them feel good about their decision. They might not like it but the truth often is not plesant to hear...when it’s not on your side.


1,036 posted on 06/16/2012 10:02:37 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: bramps

You said this: (post 1015) Romney says he will get rid of planned parenthood.
That is what I was replying to, your statement.
Given the information I provided to you, I will ask again - are you sure?


1,037 posted on 06/16/2012 10:05:09 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: svcw

Good luck with that. Trying to reason with bramps is like trying to nail jello to the wall.


1,038 posted on 06/16/2012 10:15:14 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: svcw

Did you read my post #1034? I’m actually sure he won’t get rid of it. He can’t. I’d be fairly sure he said he’d get ‘rid of it’ because it sounded like tough political talk. But I think he will try to stop them from getting federal funds. Why wouldn’t he? No fan of planned parenthood is ever going to vote for any republican over a democrat anyway. Romney will rationalize that he gets more votes by opposing them by backing up his words by cutting funding. Am I certain of my conclusion? No. Am I certain what Obama will do? Yes.


1,039 posted on 06/16/2012 10:29:05 AM PDT by bramps (Newt was the one, but Romney will do.)
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To: bramps
"Am I certain what Obama will do? Yes."

Don't ever think that you know what Obummer will do. He comes up with the most despicable ways to destroy our Constitution every day! And every day, I think he can't get any worse - and he DOES!

I am SO disappointed in Congress! I was so sure that when the Republicans took control, they would at least try to stop him. Their silence is deafening!

1,040 posted on 06/16/2012 10:41:25 AM PDT by yorkie
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