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Good for you Mitch.
1 posted on 06/12/2012 4:31:27 AM PDT by Rennes Templar
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I’m sure the wording of the law will look nice on the homeowner’s tombstone.


55 posted on 06/12/2012 5:22:34 AM PDT by Wolfie
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Quit shooting people’s pets for no reason and busted down doors at the wrong address because you’re too lazy to do a double-check it and we wouldn’t see these kinds of laws. About time....now, they better be right or they could be legally shot. Works for me.


57 posted on 06/12/2012 5:24:04 AM PDT by lgjhn23
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Nothing tweaks a power junkie more than a level playing field.


59 posted on 06/12/2012 5:25:41 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (they have no god but caesar)
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Tim Downs, president of the Indiana State Fraternal Order of Police, which opposed the legislation

Hey, if you guys aren't doing anything wrong, then you have nothing to fear - is that how it goes?
68 posted on 06/12/2012 5:42:06 AM PDT by andyk (Go Juan Pablo!)
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About d*mn time. Please God, let this go nationwide!


69 posted on 06/12/2012 5:42:06 AM PDT by jboot (Emperor: "How will this end?" Kosh: "In fire.")
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Thank God.


71 posted on 06/12/2012 5:50:27 AM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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Perhaps this is just the beginning of “citizen safety” legislation.


73 posted on 06/12/2012 5:54:11 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Fun for women ages 21 through 35)
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Dear Mr. Police Officer.

1. Make certain that you have a warrant.
2. Make sure you have the correct house.
3. Serve your warrant in a polite and professional manner. If you think I’m dangerous, serve it while I’m not home and get someone to pick me up away from the house.
4. Don’t shoot my dog.
5. In general, treat me like what I am - NOT GUILTY until convicted in a court of law.

We’ll get a long fine.

Private Citizen


76 posted on 06/12/2012 5:58:40 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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How many times a year do we hear of LEOs storming the wrong house looking for a suspect.

Lucky none of them have been shot or killed by some homeowner protecting their family.

83 posted on 06/12/2012 6:30:01 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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How many times a year do we hear of LEOs storming the wrong house looking for a suspect.

Lucky none of them have been shot or killed by some homeowner protecting their family.

84 posted on 06/12/2012 6:30:19 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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maybe a fitting name for the law is needed:
"Donald P. Scott Law"
follow the (quickly searched) url:
http://articles.latimes.com/1992-11-15/local/me-868_1_preliminary-findings
speaks for itself...

87 posted on 06/12/2012 6:30:56 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (WA DC E$tabli$hment; DNC/RNC/Unionists...Brazilian saying: "$@me Old $hit; different flie$". :^)
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“the law could open the way for people who are under the influence or emotionally distressed to attack officers in their homes”

Good.

What is this mindset, anyway, that would let cops commit crimes and leave people defenseless just because they might be depressed or something? Guess what, coppers, you can no longer go about assuming everyone’s a criminal until proven otherwise.


88 posted on 06/12/2012 6:32:44 AM PDT by Tublecane
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This is not new. If you check your history, the northern New York State area, in the Prohibition Era was the scene of bootlegging and liquor smuggling from Canada into the U.S.
During that time the Revenooers were always here looking for hidden hooch stills and secret staches of smuggled liquor here in the mountain caves etc. There are records here in the local papers and tales from my family, especially my mother, who was a part-time hooch driver for her landlady, for smuggling it down the lake and on to NY City. My great uncle was also involved- he had a mountain cave full of Canadian smuggled liquor on the lake and would load boats at night to head south. It is well known here that the Revenoors in their quest to find the hidden liquor would go into people`s houses searching sometimes without warrants. But they made the really big mistake when they attempted to enter the mountain top farms here, coz every farm had a still. They were promptly driven out by our neighbors up a little higher by bursts of shotgun rocksalt. This went on for many years and it was never contested by the government that the hillbillies here had a right to shoot at any armed federal or govt officer trespassing on their property.
We live the Constitution up here and practice for over 225 years no illegal search and seizures allowed and we back it up with rocksalt.
This practice was also recently inadvisably renewed by the State EPA here who were sued by a farmer a few years back. Now no State EPA is allowed to come onto any farmland without permission from the farm owner, warrant or no warrant due to the precedeent of non-suit by the Feds during Prohibition./.


95 posted on 06/12/2012 6:42:56 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 (illegal search????? what??`?? Who knew?)
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To: Rennes Templar; Salvation; TheOldLady; COUNTrecount; 21stCenturion; Lurking Libertarian; ...
State Supreme Court ping.

FReepmail me to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the 50-state Supreme Court ping list.

105 posted on 06/12/2012 7:03:07 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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If cops don’t want to get shot, they they should get rid of no-knock warrants and SWAT teams. There is zero need for a competent police force to have a SWAT team.
SWAT is nothing more than a bunch of good ole boys with guns, flak vests and a shared Wyatt Earp complex.


109 posted on 06/12/2012 7:11:05 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (End the racist, anti-capitalist Obama War On Freedom.)
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I hope never to be in this situation, but I consider it reasonable to assume that any illegal entry into a home is not done by genuine law enforcement officials acting in their official capacity. It is reasonable to assume that anyone conducting that illegal entry is (1) not really law enforcement, and (2) intending immediate harm to the residents of the home. It is reasonable to resist that threat with deadly force, and I’m grateful for a law that permits that action . . . dangerous as it is for the family.


125 posted on 06/12/2012 8:41:35 AM PDT by Pollster1 (A boy becomes a man when a man is needed - John Steinbeck)
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I guess the law just went into effect?

Article on passage and signing from March 23:

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/03/23/indiana-governor-signs-bill-allowing-citizens-to-use-deadly-force-against-police-officers-into-law/

In the Conservative Cave, there was some of the same back and forth as here, including these survival rules for police:

Just don't try to arrest people in their own homes. Wait till they come out.

If you have to go in:

Knock or ring the doorbell;

Ask permission to enter;

If you have a warrant, show it and permit the citizen to read it;

If the dog is on a chain, don't shoot it;

If the dog isn't on a chain or otherwise secured, offer the citizen the opportunity to secure it before you think of shooting it;

Once inside, don't deliberately wreck the place while conducting the search;

If you think the coke's in the couch cushions, let your K-9 partner take a whiff before cutting them open;

If you don't find what you're looking for, help the citizen put back anything you moved, apologize, and leave;

And last but not least,

Double-check to make sure you got the right house before knocking.

In this way, shootings of and by police will be greatly reduced.

128 posted on 06/12/2012 9:30:53 AM PDT by ExGeeEye (Romney Sucks. Mutiny Now, or something.)
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Common sense says that a police officer who forces entry into a home without (1) a warrant or (2) probable cause that a crime is in progress is a home invader, and his possession of a sidearm makes him an armed home invader.

The 95 percent of good police officers should have no more problem with this concept than the 95 percent of us who are not thieves should have with the fact that our neighbors have locks on their doors. The locks (and police) are not there for the honest majority.


130 posted on 06/12/2012 9:52:07 AM PDT by Winged Hussar (http://moveonpleasemoveon.blogspot.com/)
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Here in the sate of Florida we now have the DEMON-Rats wanting our SYG law rescinded.
They believe when you are under attack you are supposed to submit to what ever threat comes at you. If the perp wants to beat you, rape you or family, burn your house down you just roll over.
Sorry about that RATS because I do not believe in that S—t!
The Constitution of the United States of America and Samuel Colt made me equal!
The total number of days between Tuesday, June 12th, 2012 and Tuesday, November 6th, 2012 is 147 days. Et Tu, Barack!


140 posted on 06/12/2012 10:36:25 AM PDT by GOYAKLA (Recall/ Impeachment Day, November 6, 2012. FUBO, same for RINOs)
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Perhaps this will make them check addresses more carefully?


179 posted on 06/12/2012 12:11:46 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Migrating elephant herds react badly to flaming motor homes and dry ice doesn't repel killer bees)
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