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To: DiogenesLamp
We ended up with McCain as a result of bad luck mostly. If you disagree, tell me which of the following would have been a better choice than John McCain.
Rudy Giuliani, Duncan Hunter, Mike Huckabee, Ron Paul, Mitt Romney, Alan Keyes, John McCain, and Fred Thompson. As far as I was concerned, it was Fred Thompson and the Seven Dwarves, with Grumpy being the least worst among the Dwarves.

Given that you've ruled out Thompson, I'd have to say that Keyes, Huckabee, and Paul were better choices than McCain, for different reasons though.
Remember that McCain pulled a dead-parrot of a campaign; anyone showing more spirit would have been a gain -- furthermore, McCain has a history of being compromised, um, I mean "compromising"...

But, in the here and now we have (apparently)

Obama v. Romney

...which ammounts to no choice at all, really. They both ascribe to the same horrid policies, and neither is (IMO) an Natural Born Citizen.
(There is enough questionable material on Obama that non-doubt is simply unreasonable. Romney's father was born in Mexico and not a citizen at the time of Romney's birth, precluding Natural Born Citizenship.)
130 posted on 06/12/2012 1:58:27 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

“Romney’s father was born in Mexico and not a citizen at the time of Romney’s birth, precluding Natural Born Citizenship.”

Romney’s father was a US citizen, born to two American citizens living in Mexico. He was never naturalized. He didn’t need to be.


142 posted on 06/12/2012 9:30:28 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (A conservative can't please a liberal unless he jumps in front of a bus or off of a cliff)
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To: OneWingedShark

Obama v. Romney the differences;

Romney is a Fabien socialist, Fabians will ease us into the water and slowly turn up the heat until we are all slaves and most won’t notice.

Obama is a revolutionary Marxist Communist, The adherents of that school are willing and eager to finish taking power by lining up and shooting those who refuse to become the states slaves.

With some exceptions all to many politicians over the past one hundred years have been Fabians and we are a long ways down that dark hallway leading to enslavement. They have been turning up the heat for that long and we haven’t noticed!


155 posted on 06/13/2012 10:13:54 AM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Maybe the horse will learn to sing)
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To: OneWingedShark
Given that you've ruled out Thompson, I'd have to say that Keyes, Huckabee, and Paul were better choices than McCain, for different reasons though. Remember that McCain pulled a dead-parrot of a campaign; anyone showing more spirit would have been a gain -- furthermore, McCain has a history of being compromised, um, I mean "compromising"...

Keyes is popular among conservatives only. He would have carried no weight in any of the swing states. Same thing with Huckabee, and Ron Paul. Had any of them been the nominee, we would have lost even more badly. I notice you give them better chances than I do, so we might just disagree on that. I can't see any of them doing better. Sarah Palin is the only reason McCain did as well as he did, and it is highly probable that none of the other candidates would have picked her.

Fred Thompson would have won had he gotten into the race earlier and then fought for the nomination instead of taking "i'll serve if you select me" sort of attitude.

169 posted on 06/14/2012 6:21:22 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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