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CNN 'Birther Buster' Report 'Perpetrates Fraud'
wnd ^ | June 6, 2012 | Corsi

Posted on 06/07/2012 11:11:57 AM PDT by Red Steel

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To: bgill

FROM 2002:

Alvin T. Onaka, Ph.D., Earns National Recognition

Alvin T. Onaka, Ph.D. State Registrar and Chief of the Office of Health Status Monitoring of the Hawaii Department of Health was recently elected President of the National Association for Public Health Statistics and Information Systems (NAPHSIS) at their 69th Annual Meeting in Anchorage, Alaska...

http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2002/02-43onaka.html

(He certainly appears to have a LOT to lose.)


101 posted on 06/09/2012 4:20:41 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (')
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To: butterdezillion

“Are you claiming that any COLB’s which have “Date filed” on them are indications of a court ordering it to be filed and/or adoption?”

Correct. Date filed = Court ordered.

Date accepted = witness attested, signatures with date signed under threat of penalty for perjury.


102 posted on 06/09/2012 4:26:03 PM PDT by SvenMagnussen (Gossip is Satin's talk radio.)
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To: wistful
Thank you. Add to those two items the fact that Obama can't even remember the date of his own B-Day, and you really don't need a whole lot more. He is caught in a web of lies and isn't bright enough to keep them all straight. You would think, however, that someone would have had the foresight to instill in him a few basic facts about his supposed birthplace. When Obama claimed HI is in Asia, he lifted the lid off his deception so all the world could see it. If he'd been born in HI, he would know it's not in Asia. Want to bet he knows where Kenya is located? It is a bet you'd be guaranteed to win.

Certainly Arpaio could use more support. But think about it. Obama’s (in)Justice Dept. has declared all out war on the state of AZ, and what do you hear from the GOP? Crickets. If these corrupt jerks won't even stand up for an American state under assault, they sure as he!! will not stick their necks out for Arpaio. Why, the MSM just might call them racists! You don't expect them to risk that, do you?

Fortunately Arpaio has something a lot better than the support of the DC Ruling Class. He's got Mike Zullo. Given the choice, I'd take Zullo any time. MZ is a consummate professional and a dogged investigator. If I were Obama, I would NOT want Zullo delving into my past. My $ is on MZ to produce a smoking gun that at least some in the MSM won't be able to wholly ignore indefinitely. Time will tell.

103 posted on 06/09/2012 4:34:31 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Fred Nerks

“Onaka also cites Hillary Clinton as he explains how Hawaii became the first state to require a bride and groom to declare both their middle names and surnames after marriage.

He said there was confusion about what women could use as a middle name. At the time he looked into it, Clinton was in the White House.

Onaka was working with a colleague in Arkansas and learned there was no legal document indicating what her name is, he said. He called the White House and “was very impressed that the Office of First Lady returned my calls.”

Her marriage certificate said she was married to William Jefferson Clinton and that she used the name Hillary Rodham Clinton, Onaka said.”

Hillary’s middle name is Diane and not Rodham. Rodham is Hillary’s maiden name. And Onaka is dumber than driftwood.

And it’s typical of Onaka to think the SSA uses the State of Hawaii as a sole source for name verification. Biographical data in a Federal agency supercedes biographical data at the State of Hawaii or any other state. Obama’s Certificate of Naturalization on file with the U.S. Customs and Immigration Service of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security trumps any contrary data at the State of Hawaii Department of Health.

It’s unfortunate Onaka fails to realize records with U.S. Customs and Border Protection with the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service on an infant entering the country in August, 1961, trumps a Certificate of Live Birth in the State of Hawaii for that same infant.


104 posted on 06/09/2012 4:49:19 PM PDT by SvenMagnussen (Gossip is Satin's talk radio.)
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To: Baynative

See post #95.

BRIAN SCHATZ refused to sign a document claiming Obama is eligible under Article II.

BRIAN SCHATZ either submitted a legally worthless document (since it did not meet the criteria) or he was trying to commit fraud and ‘slip it by’.

BRIAN SCHATZ actions are very telling. But no reporter has had the guts to question him. Reporters are puppets now-a-days.


105 posted on 06/09/2012 5:01:59 PM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: Fred Nerks

All these accolades for Onaka yet the forms Hawaii issues seem to be the weakest in country in terms of security features.

In fact, the old ‘Peter Boy’ COLB issued in 1991 has much more security features than modern COLBs. It used VOIDSecure paper and had a very fine border.

Hawaii’s documents have been dumbed down over time and on Onaka’s watch.


106 posted on 06/09/2012 5:14:18 PM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: bluecat6

Well, you know what ‘they’ say, the more awards they get the more you have to be suspicious of what the awards and accolades are really hiding.


107 posted on 06/09/2012 5:37:17 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (')
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To: ComputerGuy; LucyT
I've been offline for a week, but yes would agree with you preemptive. We first saw a coordinated effort back in spring 2010(?) on a weekend when print/blog media across US attempted to derail birtherism and 'out' birther politicians.

Interesting to see in next couple of weeks it this is an isolated preemptive or will gel to a more concerted effort amongst other media outlets.

108 posted on 06/09/2012 6:02:02 PM PDT by urtax$@work (The only kind of memorial is a Burning memorial !)
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To: SvenMagnussen; Danae

Why would a court order Virginia Sunahara’s BC to be filed in August of 1961?

Why would a court order Danae’s BC to be filed?

What is your reason for believing that is what “Date filed” indicates?


109 posted on 06/09/2012 6:03:53 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: SvenMagnussen
...It’s unfortunate Onaka fails to realize records with U.S. Customs and Border Protection with the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service on an infant entering the country in August, 1961, trumps a Certificate of Live Birth in the State of Hawaii for that same infant...

But isn't THIS all that can be found?

110 posted on 06/09/2012 6:10:55 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (')
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To: butterdezillion
I've lost count of the various explanations offered as an answer to that very same question...filed/accepted:

zero appears to be safe, he's got one of each? A COLB filed, and a forged BC (abstract) accepted...

111 posted on 06/09/2012 6:49:30 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (')
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To: butterdezillion

I can’t get my head around this, but I’m sure you can:

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2009/02/date-filed-v-date-accepted/

Since the original publication of this article, a response was received from the Hawaii Department of Health regarding this question. The reply was as follows:

In regards to the terms “date accepted” and “date filed” on a Hawaii birth certificate, the department has no records that define these terms. Historically, the terms “Date accepted by the State Registrar” and “Date filed by the State Registrar” referred to the date a record was received in a Department of Health office (on the island of O‘ahu or on the neighbor islands of Kaua‘i, Hawai‘i, Maui, Moloka‘i, or Lana‘i), and the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office located on the island of O‘ahu) respectively.

Historically, most often the “date accepted” and the “date filed” is the same date as the majority of births occur on O‘ahu (the island with the largest population in our state). In the past, when births were recorded on paper they may have been accepted at a health office on an island other than O‘ahu, such as Kaua‘i. The paper record would then need to be sent to O‘ahu to have a file number placed on it, and the filed date would then be sometime later (as you know, the state of Hawai‘i is comprised of multiple islands with miles of water in between). The electronic age has changed this process significantly, and it was determined some time ago that one date would suffice.

Janice Okubo
Hawaii State Department of Health

What I find most informative in this response is the confirmation that certificates are numbered centrally, something I have been saying had to be the case.

Update 3: Something has been staring me in the face for two years and I never noticed it. There is no “Date Filed” on a Hawaiian long form birth certificate from 1961. The COLB is abstracted from the long form. Therefore, no matter what the COLB says, the date on it is the “Date Accepted” because that’s the only date on the form it’s copied from. Hawaii may have changed terms, but the 1961 form only has a “Date Accepted” on it.


113 posted on 06/09/2012 7:28:02 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (')
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To: butterdezillion

Many of us suspected Obama’s COLB embossed seals are not genuine. You could send your analysis to the Arpaio Posse and whoever else.


114 posted on 06/09/2012 7:41:42 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: bluecat6
All these accolades for Onaka yet the forms Hawaii issues seem to be the weakest in country in terms of security features.

Correct. Onaka wrote a paper in 2005 called Birth Certificate Integrity: Strengthening National Security. In it he cites Section 7211 of the Intelligence Reform Act of 2004. Here is the part:

purposes that—

(A) at a minimum, shall require certification of the birth certificate by the State or local government custodian of record that issued the certificate, and shall require the use of safety paper or an alternative, equally secure medium, the seal of the issuing custodian of record, and other features designed to prevent tampering, counterfeiting,or otherwise duplicating the birth certificate for fraudulent purposes;

Now according to the Act, Hawaii BC would not be accepted by the Federal government :

shall require certification of the birth certificate by the State or local government custodian of record that issued the certificate ( THEY DO THAT )

shall require the use of safety paper or an alternative, equally secure medium, (THEY DO THAT )

the seal of the issuing custodian of record, (THEY DO THAT)

and other features designed to prevent tampering, counterfeiting,or otherwise duplicating the birth certificate for fraudulent purposes; (THEY DON’T DO THAT )

Like you mentioned, there are no additional security features to prevent tampering. That is what I have always found lacking with Hawaii. ANY certified form I have ever received, be it school transcripts, things from state of local governments, ALL had an additional security feature built in. If you scanned the copy, you would see something like VOID all across the page. Hawaii’s “security paper” doesn’t do that.

It seems pretty ironic that the guy ( Onaka ) writing about security in BC’s has the weakest security of all the states to prevent tampering or counterfeiting.

115 posted on 06/09/2012 7:46:01 PM PDT by TheCipher (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself- Mark Twain)
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To: TheCipher; Fred Nerks

Peterboy COLB frmo 1991.

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/4746/peterboycertificate.jpg

This used to be readily available on the Hawaii DOH website. Then they put a password requirement for it.


116 posted on 06/10/2012 4:36:12 AM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: bluecat6; TheCipher

Accepted, with SEAL, 1983

117 posted on 06/10/2012 4:55:30 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (')
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To: Fred Nerks
Accepted, with SEAL, 1983

I think you may have misunderstood what I was saying. I didn't mean Accepted by the State Registrar. What I was referring to is what according to the Intelligence Reform Act of 2004, the Federal government requires at a minimum in order for a birth certificate to be accepted by one of their agencies. Now whether or not they adhere to section is another thing.

118 posted on 06/10/2012 5:27:43 AM PDT by TheCipher (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself- Mark Twain)
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To: bluecat6; butterdezillion
Peterboy COLB frmo 1991.

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Now that is very interesting. They used that paper back in 1991 but don't use it now. Wonder why they changed and when ?

119 posted on 06/10/2012 5:34:13 AM PDT by TheCipher (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself- Mark Twain)
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To: butterdezillion

Bfl


120 posted on 06/10/2012 6:05:52 AM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!!)
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