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To: butterdezillion

I can’t get my head around this, but I’m sure you can:

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2009/02/date-filed-v-date-accepted/

Since the original publication of this article, a response was received from the Hawaii Department of Health regarding this question. The reply was as follows:

In regards to the terms “date accepted” and “date filed” on a Hawaii birth certificate, the department has no records that define these terms. Historically, the terms “Date accepted by the State Registrar” and “Date filed by the State Registrar” referred to the date a record was received in a Department of Health office (on the island of O‘ahu or on the neighbor islands of Kaua‘i, Hawai‘i, Maui, Moloka‘i, or Lana‘i), and the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office located on the island of O‘ahu) respectively.

Historically, most often the “date accepted” and the “date filed” is the same date as the majority of births occur on O‘ahu (the island with the largest population in our state). In the past, when births were recorded on paper they may have been accepted at a health office on an island other than O‘ahu, such as Kaua‘i. The paper record would then need to be sent to O‘ahu to have a file number placed on it, and the filed date would then be sometime later (as you know, the state of Hawai‘i is comprised of multiple islands with miles of water in between). The electronic age has changed this process significantly, and it was determined some time ago that one date would suffice.

Janice Okubo
Hawaii State Department of Health

What I find most informative in this response is the confirmation that certificates are numbered centrally, something I have been saying had to be the case.

Update 3: Something has been staring me in the face for two years and I never noticed it. There is no “Date Filed” on a Hawaiian long form birth certificate from 1961. The COLB is abstracted from the long form. Therefore, no matter what the COLB says, the date on it is the “Date Accepted” because that’s the only date on the form it’s copied from. Hawaii may have changed terms, but the 1961 form only has a “Date Accepted” on it.


113 posted on 06/09/2012 7:28:02 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (')
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To: Fred Nerks
There is no “Date Filed” on a Hawaiian long form birth certificate from 1961. The COLB is abstracted from the long form. Therefore, no matter what the COLB says, the date on it is the “Date Accepted” because that’s the only date on the form it’s copied from. Hawaii may have changed terms, but the 1961 form only has a “Date Accepted” on it.

Well, there you are. Another incident of carelessness. Alvin's not the great record keeper he thinks he is. There's a reason for his department to pass the new vexatious requestor law.

124 posted on 06/10/2012 7:36:03 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Fred Nerks
I remember reading that explanation of filed / accepted at the time, too. What struck me was what was not asked and answered : what causes the computer document generator to choose the word filed or accepted when creating a printed document? I must have asked that question here back then, too.

-PJ

151 posted on 06/11/2012 12:41:16 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: Fred Nerks
I remember reading that explanation of filed / accepted at the time, too. What struck me was what was not asked and answered : what causes the computer document generator to choose the word filed or accepted when creating a printed document? I must have asked that question here back then, too.

-PJ

152 posted on 06/11/2012 12:41:47 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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