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To: Lazamataz

There’s lots of “research” out there, especially psychiatric “research” that has no basis in reality. But here in reality one thing we know is that long before one of these guys winds up in solitary they’ve already shown plenty of anti-social possibly even sociopathic behavior, yet we’re supposed to believe it’s the solitary that made them nuts.

This is not a violation of the 8th amendment. that’s just more of that whiny BS. It fails on all tests, it’s been around far too long to be unusual, and it’s not cruel. It’s a simple, often deserved, punishment. Here’s the REAL two camp:
you in those that favor coddling criminals and believing every spurious claim they make about every punishment they face being cruel and unusual
and those of us that understand they’re criminals thus known to be socially maladjusted liars and there is nothing cruel or unusual about solitary confinement


55 posted on 06/04/2012 3:30:21 PM PDT by discostu (Listen, do you smell something?)
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To: discostu; Tijeras_Slim
There’s lots of “research” out there, especially psychiatric “research” that has no basis in reality. But here in reality one thing we know is that long before one of these guys winds up in solitary they’ve already shown plenty of anti-social possibly even sociopathic behavior, yet we’re supposed to believe it’s the solitary that made them nuts.

Again, I've presented facts and evidence, and you have waved your arms wildly in return.

Tijeras, at the beginning of this thread, mentioned he's been in the system and he's SEEN this.

Tijeras -- if you care to -- take it away. I'm done with the dude.

56 posted on 06/04/2012 3:41:29 PM PDT by Lazamataz (People who resort to Godwin's Law are just like Hitler.)
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To: discostu; Lazamataz

Good evening discotu,

Prolonged solitary, or even limited solitary can cause what we called, when I was in corrections, “isolation psychosis” (granted it’s not a technical term). Inmates isolated for relatively brief periods developed more aggressive behavior.

Not all inmates in solitary are there because they present a danger to the prison population. Given that correctional officers are hassled, overworked, and (not without reason) adversaries to the inmates, individuals are stuck in isolation because it’s easy and the officer can do it. There are no saints in prison, on either side.

An inmate in solitary, either deservedly or not, is not in the position to be rehabilitated. And there are many in prison who can, and probably would like to be rehabilitated. If anything, isolation sets back the possibility of an inmate becoming a member of society again.

Just my 2 cents.


57 posted on 06/04/2012 4:02:47 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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