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1 posted on 06/04/2012 6:36:47 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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DDG 1000 design features and systems. The Zumwalt Class will be multimission vessels tailored for land attack and littoral dominance and will also have a sensor and weapons suite optimised for littoral warfare and for network-centric warfare


The new Long Range Attack Projectile (LRAP) — The DDG 1000 will be armed with tactical tomahawks, standard missile SM-3s and the evolved SeaSparrow missile

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2 posted on 06/04/2012 6:39:16 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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I was kind of under the impression that air power had long since replaced sea-based artillery.


3 posted on 06/04/2012 6:43:49 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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Well, I always knew The South would rise again!...................


6 posted on 06/04/2012 6:47:29 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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I have always had two concerns about stealth technology.

1. That eventually someone will come up with a way of detecting it... rendering all of these crazy expensive stealth a huge waste of taxpayer dollars.

2. That if stealth can be used on boats, bombers, and fighters.. it can be used on nuclear armed ICBM’s too... which completely eliminates the ability to retaliate in a nuclear war since you are destroyed before you ever know your under attack.


7 posted on 06/04/2012 6:49:15 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. and the economy died.)
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Did they dredge up some old Civil War ironclad blue prints?


10 posted on 06/04/2012 6:54:56 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (End the racist, anti-capitalist Obama War On Freedom.)
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If the principle mission is land attack, I think there are equally effective less costly technologies available. Stealth drones come to mind.
12 posted on 06/04/2012 6:55:25 AM PDT by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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If the principle mission is land attack, I think there are equally effective less costly technologies available. Stealth drones come to mind.
13 posted on 06/04/2012 6:55:34 AM PDT by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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Here's a different idea - how about we turn back Chinese trade before they destroy our economy rather than build $7 Billion Destroyers? A tariff on all Chinese products equal to their manipulation of the currency would go a long way.

We used to defeat Communism by show of force before we started accommodating them by turning over our manufacturing base.

14 posted on 06/04/2012 6:59:13 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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The Zumwalt-class has been capped at two or three hulls. The technologies on them will take a long time to get right — if ever. The electromagnetic rail gun continues to be a DNR wet dream but the 155mm gun is progressing.

Nonetheless, these warships when finally delivered will be experimental platforms rather than useful ships. Question for the USN: If the Chinese find a way around your stealthy design (and they will), then what you've got is a $7 billion TARGET.

15 posted on 06/04/2012 6:59:13 AM PDT by MasterGunner01 (11)
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A railgun?! Wow, didn’t realize we were that far on the technology. The video on that link was pretty awesome too!


16 posted on 06/04/2012 7:00:57 AM PDT by Marko413
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A railgun?! Wow, didn’t realize we were that far on the technology. The video on that link was pretty awesome too!


17 posted on 06/04/2012 7:01:23 AM PDT by Marko413
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21 posted on 06/04/2012 7:19:53 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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What do you get for $7 billion in stealth technology that doesn’t come for free in a submarine? (Well except for the base price of the submarine).


24 posted on 06/04/2012 7:29:20 AM PDT by DManA
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I haven’t followed rail gun technology, but I think it’s a safe bet, based on other technologies, that the first run will be problemmatic, short range, and bulky compared to what will eventually be available as the technology matures.

Given that, deployment on a ship would seem to make sense. It’s mobile, it’s big, it can generate a lot of power, and it’s a good test bed.

When viewed that way, perhaps the cost isn’t as much of a concern if it leads to smaller, longer range, and more portable versions later that have already been proven to be robust.

If this were on a nuclear ship (I don’t know if that is the case here), you would have a great source of power and wouldn’t need to stockpile explosives for projectile launches.

Depending on the eventual accurate range of this technology, the stealth aspect may end up like I understand it’s use on aircraft - our weapons are able to engage just about any enemy so far out that even defeating the stealth would not give a significant advantage in most cases. In close range combat, the ship obviously isn’t invisible to the naked eye so it’s going to be vulnerable no matter what to optical targetting. Let’s hope we don’t let anyone get that close.

I’m obviously not an expert, and I’m making a lot of guesses here, but that’s my sense of what may be the thinking in this case.


31 posted on 06/04/2012 7:43:01 AM PDT by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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How well would the three, $7 billion ships stand up to 1000 $21 million ships?


33 posted on 06/04/2012 7:50:27 AM PDT by DBrow
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$7 billion for a destroyer is a crime. Seriously. And the Zumwalt doesn’t even have the Burke class’ anti-air capability. Not enough room to shoehorn that caliber of AA electronics into the current design. This ship is a multi-billion dollar solution in search of a problem. Zumwalt would be appalled at his name being stuck on this turkey. He was all about “many and cheap”... building a huge fleet of small, easy to build and inexpensive warships vs. a small fleet with a few hyper-expensive behemoths. He was the brainchild behind the Sea Control Ship and the Perry class frigate. Sometimes I think someone in the Navy Department named this ship just to insult his memory.


34 posted on 06/04/2012 7:56:45 AM PDT by DesScorp
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I thought “Land Attack” was what those big, converted (from SSBN to SSGN) Trident subs were for? They replaced the Trident missiles with bundles of cruise missiles and added room for SEAL teams.

I wonder if the BBG (they sure as heck ain’t DDGs) Zumwalts will have any other useful abilities like air defense and ASW?


37 posted on 06/04/2012 8:03:40 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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The current carriers being constructed are $4 billion a unit. Also worries me that there is so much new technology. Usually projects like that end up bad or have huge cost overruns.


40 posted on 06/04/2012 8:08:53 AM PDT by C19fan
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There is no such thing as a stealthy surface ship:

Observation and Analysis of Ship Wakes in ERS-SAR and Spot Images

The Zumwalts are nothing more than crippled subs, unable to submerge. Better to build more real subs.
41 posted on 06/04/2012 8:12:58 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything)
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The Zumwalt was originally estimated to cost about $3.8 billion, but so much technology crammed on board that its cost has nearly doubled, and after the first three are built, production will stop.

If the technology is powered by Chinese chips with backdoors built into them, then yes, production, guidance, fire and control, engines...the whole boat will stop.

It would be cheaper to just give the Chinese the blueprints to the thing and get it over with. Plus it would give the free traitors another excuse to spend taxpayer money on outsourcing.

44 posted on 06/04/2012 8:28:37 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (Goode or Evil, that's the choice.)
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