Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Bush v. Gore judge: Your evidence, Mr. Obama
WND ^ | May 31, 2012 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 05/31/2012 6:26:26 PM PDT by Seizethecarp

A hearing has been scheduled in a Florida court to allow attorneys representing the White House to support their claim that the term “natural born citizen” in the U.S. Constitution means something other than the offspring of two American citizens.

Judge Terry Lewis in Leon County has set a hearing for June 18 to consider arguments from both sides of a challenge to Obama’s name on the 2012 state election ballot.

Lewis is credited with making crucial rulings in the contested 2000 presidential election, when ultimately a Florida vote recount was halted by the U.S. Supreme Court and George W. Bush was declared the winner.

Attorney Larry Klayman’s law firm filed the challenge to Obama’s name on the ballot on behalf of Democrat Michael Voeltz, “a registered member of the Democrat Party, voter, and taxpayer in Broward County, who was an eligible elector for the Florida Primary of Jan. 31, 2012.”

Klayman told WND that during a hearing today on discovery issues in the case, Lewis noted that while Klayman’s brief cited a U.S. Supreme Court’s decision defining “natural born citizen” as the offspring of two citizens of the nation, the White House’s arguments provided no citations.

Klayman had cited the U.S. Supreme Court case Minor v. Happersett from 1875.

Lewis ordered further briefing on the issue before the hearing.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: article2section1; ballotchallenge; birthcertificate; certifigate; eligibility; happersett; ineligible; klayman; minor; minorvhappersett; naturalborncitizen; obama; usurper
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 81-100101-120121-140141-152 next last
To: OafOfOffice

Then why was it used on a U.S. passport application form??


101 posted on 06/01/2012 8:53:24 AM PDT by edge919
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 97 | View Replies]

To: sten
want real news? read free republic. nuf said

That used to be true.

102 posted on 06/01/2012 8:57:48 AM PDT by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 50 | View Replies]

To: edge919

If you look at the passport article it states, place names and state relationship.

She placed Obama and soebarkah (son of) Lolo Soetoro.

Paraphrasing because I can’t remember the exact wording. It is here but I can’t get into the website right now for some reason. webofdeception.com/obamamotherpassports.html


103 posted on 06/01/2012 9:30:36 AM PDT by OafOfOffice (W.C:Socialism:Philosophy of failure,creed of ignorance,gospel of envy,the equal sharing of misery)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 101 | View Replies]

To: OafOfOffice
She placed Obama and soebarkah (son of) Lolo Soetoro.

Maybe you're not understanding ... this was a U.S. passport application, not an Indonesian passport application. The person(s) processing it wouldn't likely speak Indonesian. So again, why would she do this on a U.S. passport application if it's not part of how he was being formally identified??

104 posted on 06/01/2012 9:33:55 AM PDT by edge919
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 103 | View Replies]

To: Flotsam_Jetsome
And then the was the eligibility case in Georgia that went like this: http://www.thenationalpatriot.com/2012/02/04/obama-eligibility-and-a-decision-of-tyranny/
105 posted on 06/01/2012 9:59:21 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 82 | View Replies]

To: Red Steel
Remember what happened in the Georgia case?:

The attorney for the defendant, Obama, states he will not participate or provide subpoenaed material.

The Georgia Secretary of State says such action will be at the attorney’s and his client’s peril.

The hearing proceeds with the only evidence and testimony presented being against the defendant.

One week later, the Judge finds in favor of the defendant.

Don't get your hopes up.

106 posted on 06/01/2012 10:02:34 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 54 | View Replies]

To: Seizethecarp
It appears that a court ruling on the definition could been coming, Klayman said.

So he's going after the two parent rule. The sticking point in the definition may be the naturalization period and the status of children born in the country during naturalization because it affects both Rubio and Jindal who were born here during their parents' naturalization. Obama's father on the other hand never naturalized and was always a foreign national.

107 posted on 06/01/2012 10:04:06 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

I don’t. I’m very well aware of the track record of the lack of conviction from the US courts.


108 posted on 06/01/2012 10:28:53 AM PDT by Red Steel
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 106 | View Replies]

To: GregNH
Yikes, isn't that a legal problem?

Could be... he's a flaming OBot off his medication, and is fearing what Arpaio has on Obama who will expose him around mid-June. So village OBot, Foggy of Fogbow.com, is feeling that his delusional world could be coming to an end.

109 posted on 06/01/2012 11:07:04 AM PDT by Red Steel
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 94 | View Replies]

To: Red Steel
delusional world could be coming to an end

I felt very alone back in 08 when I realized that Zero was not an NBC. In October of 08 I was hopeful that Congress would do it's duty. See link in comment here http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2890122/posts?page=93#93

As time has passed we have been thinking it will break open any day now, and we have been disappointing. But I think we are at a point now where it is simply getting too big to ignore. Millions of Americans now know he is a fraud. Congress may have to deal with this before the election.

110 posted on 06/01/2012 11:59:10 AM PDT by GregNH (If you are unable to fight, please find a good place to hide.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 109 | View Replies]

To: Seizethecarp

“Absent legal discovery of evidence challenging authenticity of either of Barry’s BCs, under the full faith and credit clause, a federal judge would be compelled to accept a certified copy of a BC from HI, either COLB or LFBC...”
__

I think that’s correct. But since Hawaiian officials have already said that the data on the COLB and on the LFBC match what’s in their records, it seems to me that the best way to counter that is by coming up with admissible evidence that Pres. Obama was born somewhere other than Hawaii.

I wonder, is the Arpaio posse working on that?


111 posted on 06/01/2012 12:31:34 PM PDT by BigGuy22
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 100 | View Replies]

To: edge919

Where is this passport? I have not seen it.


112 posted on 06/01/2012 1:18:29 PM PDT by OafOfOffice (W.C:Socialism:Philosophy of failure,creed of ignorance,gospel of envy,the equal sharing of misery)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 104 | View Replies]

To: edge919

This is the only one I know of. http://is.gd/NGf7Wd

It reads, amend to include or (exclude) children. She excluded son (Soebarkah) She was not applying for her sons passport renewal. Just hers.

Soe Bar Kah means literally Who is this, but the son of Soetoro. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2728155/posts


113 posted on 06/01/2012 1:31:07 PM PDT by OafOfOffice (W.C:Socialism:Philosophy of failure,creed of ignorance,gospel of envy,the equal sharing of misery)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 104 | View Replies]

To: BigGuy22
“I think that’s correct. But since Hawaiian officials have already said that the data on the COLB and on the LFBC match what’s in their records, it seems to me that the best way to counter that is by coming up with admissible evidence that Pres. Obama was born somewhere other than Hawaii.

“I wonder, is the Arpaio posse working on that?”

Arpaio and Zullo have alluded to “traveling” to numerous locations perhaps including foreign locations in pursuit of evidence.

The problem with foreign birth evidence, such as Kenyan evidence, is that under the rules of evidence a foreign BC must be authenticated by the authorities of the country of birth and testimony of Kenyan officials would be very problematic either way given the traditions of corruption and jockying between pro-Luo and anti-Luo factions.

114 posted on 06/01/2012 2:11:06 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 111 | View Replies]

To: Red Steel
Could be... he's a flaming OBot off his medication, and is fearing what Arpaio has on Obama who will expose him around mid-June. So village OBot, Foggy of Fogbow.com, is feeling that his delusional world could be coming to an end.

Or that his masters will be displeased with him for failing to stop the rebels.


115 posted on 06/01/2012 2:25:37 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 109 | View Replies]

To: Seizethecarp
The problem with foreign birth evidence, such as Kenyan evidence, is that under the rules of evidence a foreign BC must be authenticated by the authorities of the country of birth and testimony of Kenyan officials would be very problematic either way given the traditions of corruption and jockying between pro-Luo and anti-Luo factions.

But not so much the Canadians, which is the direction I lean.

116 posted on 06/01/2012 2:28:31 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 114 | View Replies]

To: Red Steel

I’ve seen so many of these subpoenae which are just forms printed out by Taitz. Do we know if the judge actually signed off on this?


117 posted on 06/01/2012 3:10:13 PM PDT by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 54 | View Replies]

To: Plummz

Likely not.


118 posted on 06/01/2012 3:25:43 PM PDT by Red Steel
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 117 | View Replies]

To: Seizethecarp

“...a foreign BC must be authenticated by the authorities...”
__

I agree, and obtaining a valid Kenyan BC might be something that occurs relatively late in the process.

Still, as far as I’m concerned, there are plenty of details yet to be established. I mean, why the assumption that a Kenyan birth must have taken place in Mombassa? Is there reason to believe that, or is it just something someone said that caught on? What about the means of travel in 1961? Can’t any part of the journey be reconstructed?

I know these are tricky details to uncover, but it’s been four years and I’m not aware of any serious effort to do it. If Trump is really interested in putting up money to help Romney, it would be relatively cheap to hire a couple of hot-shot investigators who might finally get somewhere.


119 posted on 06/01/2012 3:31:16 PM PDT by BigGuy22
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 114 | View Replies]

To: OafOfOffice

If you are suggesting that Soebarkah was not a name but some sort of comment on the form, you are confused. Soebarkah was the Indonesian name for the child Obama. It is common in Indonesia to have a single name.


120 posted on 06/01/2012 5:00:22 PM PDT by dinodino
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 113 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 81-100101-120121-140141-152 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson