Posted on 05/30/2012 5:52:48 PM PDT by Red Steel
ok then bring it.
ok then bring it.
I thought the hospital was not yet built on the birth date claimed
We can resolve this. Show the birth certificate. There is none which verifies Obama was born in Hawaii. If there was, we would have seen it by now.
The men in Washington are going to let him run again without insisting he comply with the Constitution. That is something the founding fathers would not have put up with. If there was anyone in Washington with the fortitude of the founding fathers, he would insist that Obama prove he was born here. He cannot. Remember that his grandmother said she was there in Kenya and witnessed his birth.
what arpaio and his investigators need is positive proof of obama having been born in a foreign country, an official college transcript or entrance application, an official microfilm, SOMETHING which cannot be easily explained away or have some MSM idiot cast aside because it was an “error.” I have great respect for Arpaio and admire that he’s basically the only out there doing anything about this fraud but he really needs to nail some REAL EVIDENCE. and he also needs to stop saying that he’s not accusing obama of anything. he needs to directly confront obama with such real evidence and stop playing around with inconsequential stuff.
If he makes the statement knowing that all he can do is...nothing, then he is lying.
Or perhaps you think his statement was made with the utmost sincerity and honesty?
Perhaps you lack a functioning Bullshit Detector.
The OTHER thing that I think they might have found is a passenger manifest that puts Stanley Ann Dunham and her baby out of the state at the time Obama was allegedly born. The HI DOH refuses to verify Obama's date of birth. This would be an explosive way to prove the date of birth is wrong and that Obama wasn't born in Hawaii.
In this recession, and the looming "economic cliff", money will speak to those who are in trouble and struggling to support their loved ones. Interesting to ponder how much may already have been spent, and accepted, regarding this issue.
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I believe it was already built at that time because the exact same name is on the Nordyke twins' birth certificate that we see on the internet, although I believe they have made several major renovations over the years.
The Nordyke twins were born in that hospital the day after Obama was born there on Aug. 4, 1961: They were born on Aug. 5 according to their birth certificates, although no one seems to know why the Nordyke twins' numbers are lower than Obama's number, even though Obama was born one day earlier.
It is unlikely that any records exist to prove, pro or con, this story.
Hospitals in different states have different requirements for record retention. Hawaii, last I checked, was 25 years.
As everyone converts to EMR, paper records are being destroyed as rapidly as possible. I had a case in 2006 where I had to confirm a simple fact from 1958, from my own hospital, and the fact is that all records from 1958 are long gone.
Whether or not the State of Hawaii is involved in a coverup (and they SHOULD have whatever records exist from 1961), it's very unlikely that Kapiolani has any relevant information at all.
I hope it is even better than that. Seeing as Kenya was a British colony at the time, there may be copies of arrivals and departures through customs in the British Foreign Office. They may have thought they covered their tracks as far as Kenyan records go.
I was thinking arrest records, LA, NYC, or Hawaii.
He was into drugs and may have been arrested. May have been in a car accident. Police take notes about all kinds of things.
All these records are getting computerized. Search on Kenyan citizen arrest. See what comes up.
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It is unlikely that any records exist to prove, pro or con, this story.
Hospitals in different states have different requirements for record retention. Hawaii, last I checked, was 25 years.
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If you are correct, then Kapiolani Hospital officials should have no problem coming out with a statement tomorrow like this one: "We destroy patient records after 25 years, so we have no records of Stanley Ann Dunham if she was a patient here in Aug. 1961, because the period between Aug. 1961 and May 2012 is a period of about 50 years."
Don't hold your breath.
1. Myself, I have trouble believing that Kapiolani Hospital does not have at least one piece of paper in a forgotten file some where or one item on their computer records with the name of Stanley Ann Dunham and the year 1961, if Stanley Ann Dunham was indeed a patient there in Aug. 1961.
2. For instance, you may remember that a few years ago, Kapiolani Hospital proudly displayed a letter from President Obama that stated that he was born there.
3. But Kapiolani officials quietly stopped displaying the President's letter on its website because of complaints.
4. My point is this: Why would Kapiolani officials proudly display the President's letter if they had no record whatsoever that Stanley Ann Dunham was a patient there in 1961, because they destroyed her records in 1961 + 25 = 1986.
5. But, to me, the most interesting question is this: Why did Kapiolani Hospital officials quietly take down the President's letter from its website if Stanley Ann Dunham was a patient there in Aug. 1961?
6. Again, Kapiolani Hospital officials could quickly clear up the question tomorrow of whether or not Stanley Ann Dunham was a patient there in Aug. 1961 by making a public statement one way or the other.
“I believe that there is forged copy in Hawaii”
April 20th, 2009 (It did not occur to me at the time to copy URL & authors name)
**[MargaretSmith/Banking Trade Commerce Canadian Printing Press/Obama]**
From the original report about Obamas administration doing a long form Birth Certificate Forgery:
They have already prepared the forgery with special paper and ink.
The document was printed on a fully functional 1960 Heidelberger printing press located at a print museum in Toronto.
Access was arranged by a trustee of the museum who is connected to a large Canadian banking/investment firm with major US interests.
Expounding on this striking detail, some blanks needed to be filled in.
Locating the Museum in Toronto with a printing press that would do the job
Are you ready for this?
Research was done on nearly every Museum in the Toronto area for a printing press that was operational and could do a forgery.
Everything connecting museums in the area with this type and age of printing press kept pointing back to one Museum in the area.
The name of the Museum this the National Museum of Science and Technology in Toronto.
It has quite a collection of older printing presses. Below is a snippet of the Museums description:
Among numerous exhibits in this educational facility is a collection of printing equipment that includes flatbeds, jobbers, cylinder and rotary presses (http://www.briarpress.org/139)
Identifying a Trustee with links to Canadian banking and investment firms
The next item of business was to find any Trustees (as mentioned by the report) to this Museum that had a connection to a large Canadian investment firm. After looking into this, one person really stood out right away.
The Museum only has three Trustees assigned to it and Margaret Smith came up with a numerous ties to Canadas economic and investment banking syndicate.
It is likely because she serves on the Standing Senate Committee on Banking, Trade and Commerce for Canada. This definitely qualifies her for being connected to not just one, but several Canadian banking and investment firms.
If it is like in the US, then she probably gets kick-backs from more than one firm, by introducing legislation to the Committee that will benefit the firms substantially. The Trustee of the Museum and member of the Senate Banking Committee appear to be the same Margaret Smith, though not 100% certain.
Canadian Source URL confirming Margaret Smith attending a Senate Banking Committee meeting:http://www.parl.gc.ca/36/1/parlbus/commbus/senate/com-e/bank-e/27mn-e.htm?Language=E&Parl=36&Ses=1&comm_id=3 (how much you want to bet this gets scrubbed?).
Canadian Source URL confirming Margaret Smith as a Trustee to the Museum (this one less likely to get scrubbed, but probably will)
Both sources were backed up, along with images.
There are still some questions left, like who did Obama meet with and that is also a member of this same Banking Committee on his recent trip to Canada?
Stephen Barnard Dunham?
New name to research.
Where did you find this name?
RS - Did you see Orly’s latest case with the state of Indiana on her web site ? I tried to post it on FR, but FR will not accept a link to her site due to being unsafe (viruses?) Anyway, she has posted subpoena notices for over 12 people for mid June hearing ! Just curious what you think of that.
I am hoping and praying that this doesn’t follow the same route as GA...where they start out as gang-busters, and then they get some kind of warning from Washington Thugs of MASS out-of-control national riots and immediately back down and cave, which KILLS ME !
RS - Did you see Orly’s latest case with the state of Indiana on her web site ? I tried to post it on FR, but FR will not accept a link to her site due to being unsafe (viruses?) Anyway, she has posted subpoena notices for over 12 people for mid June hearing ! Just curious what you think of that.
I am hoping and praying that this doesn’t follow the same route as GA...where they start out as gang-busters, and then they get some kind of warning from Washington Thugs of MASS out-of-control national riots and immediately back down and cave, which KILLS ME !
Not bad.
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