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To: Hodar

“Today, an illegal alien who drops a baby on this side of the border - the child is considered a “natural born american”

Not so, except in the media, and among certain members of the looney left.

In order to provide cover for Obama, the eligibility question is restated, intentionally it seems, (I’ve heard it incorrectly stated 3 times today on the radio), to one of simply birthplace. That is not the Constitutional standard and they well know it.

Obama’s oft quoted “I was born here, I am a citizen.” is not sufficient to make him eligible per Article II of the Constitution.

Funny how even on the threads here on FR, born citizens, which both Rubio and Obama appear to be, magically become “Natural Born Citizens” at the drop of a hat, without any concern to what that exactly means historically.

Like in the World of Dogs, a pedigree poodle bred to a mutt will not result in a pedigree poodle puppies. The AKC would protest. Yes, that breeding will result in born puppies and eventually they’ll grow into dogs....but pedigree poodles?.....No. Not ever.

Obama’s father, Barack Obama according to Jr., sits in the middle of the parlor like a pink elephant, and no one seems to notice.

Obama is a mutt.


90 posted on 05/30/2012 7:13:26 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry bear formerly known as..........Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: Forty-Niner

Obama is a mutt - no argument from me, I’d even go further but let me tell you he is a mutt who is a natural born citizen of this country IF his birth certicicate is legitimate.

There are a lot of people on this forum that wish there was a two parent rule but wishing doesn’t make it so and wishing offers no concrete proof and a million words of bullshit doesn’t make it so either.

We are a nation of laws and the SCOTUS has declared that aliens can produce NBC’s. An Arizona court ruled that Obama is a natural born citizen - it’s in writing.

That battle is over. The law has spoken and it is time to obey the law of the land. Got a problem with that?

Any time I have put up proof that this country is based on jus soli, I never get an argument about that. I ALWAYS get a bunch of other crap that is nitpicked from who knows where.

I’ll ask you this and ask for a direct answer.

What did Madison mean when he said: It is an established maxim, that birth is a criterion of allegiance. Birth, however, derives its force sometimes from place, and sometimes from parentage; but, in general place is the most certain criterion; it is what applies in the United States.”

IT IS WHAT APPLIES IN THE UNITED STATES.


91 posted on 05/30/2012 7:59:48 PM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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