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To: butterdezillion
But if you want to argue your point that they were verifying the true facts of Obama’s birth

§338-14.3 Verification in lieu of a certified copy.
(b) A verification shall be considered for all purposes certification that the vital event did occur and that the facts of the event are as stated by the applicant.

The verification process will not, however, disclose information about the vital event contained within the certificate that is unknown to and not provided by the applicant in the request.

Hawaii didn't "skip" any critical facts. The date and time of birth and the parents' names were verified with the statement indicating that the copy of the LFBC submitted by Bennett matched what is on file at the HDoH. Hawaii supplied everything Bennett asked for in his email dated March 30, 2012. To imply otherwise is to ignore the truth.
93 posted on 05/25/2012 1:32:23 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Why didn’t the HDOH give a routine response to Bennett’s form requesting verification in lieu of a certified copy? They are not on the record anywhere saying specifically that Obama was born on Aug 4, 1961, for instance - which is what the official request form asked for.

Why not?

All they responded to was a SPECIFIC particularly-worded request that they verify WHAT WAS ON THE RECORD ON FILE. That was not a routine request to which HRS 338-14.3 refers (and they had Bennett DROP the request that WAS a routine request, for which HRS 338-14.3 applies). It was a specific request to be told what is on that document; that is NOT a request to verify the truthful facts of the birth. And Onaka told him what was on that document - certified that this is what was on the document. Nowhere did he say that the document was legally valid. He verified that the record exists, and he verified what was on the record.

You have to recognize the difference between an official verification and what Bennett asked for. An official verification is certification of the TRUE FACTS of the birth; what Bennett asked for in the special portion of his request was a verification of what is on the record they have. Do you recognize that difference? Do you recognize that Bennett’s request which was specifically answered specifically stated that those were to be items FROM THE RECORD - which is different than verifying that those items are the LEGALLY TRUE FACTS?


97 posted on 05/25/2012 2:03:06 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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