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To: butterdezillion; Tex-Con-Man
I'm sorry, butter. All of your conjecture has been proven wrong.

... which according to HRS 338-14.3 would have required the HDOH to certify the true facts of Obama’s birth - including place of birth, date of birth, and the parents’ names.

That is exactly what Hawaii verified. They verified 12 specific items (including but not limited to the place & date of birth and the parents' names), verified that the information in the copy of the LFBC submitted by Bennett matched their records and went a step further:

"I certify that the information contained in the vital record on file with the Department of Health was used to verify the facts of the vital event." - Alvin T. Onaka, May 22, 2012
http://www.kvoa.com/files/Verification%20In%20Lieu%20of%20Certified%20Copy.PDF

that they CANNOT verify any birth facts for Obama because his birth record is late and amended and thus not legally probative.

Well, they've done exactly what you said they couldn't.

85 posted on 05/25/2012 10:17:13 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: butterdezillion; Tex-Con-Man

Correction: parenthetical inserted after wrong clause.

That is exactly what Hawaii verified. They verified 12 specific items (including but not limited to the place & date of birth and the parents’ names), verified that the information in the copy of the LFBC submitted by Bennett matched their records and went a step further:

Should read:

That is exactly what Hawaii verified. They verified 12 specific items, verified that the information in the copy of the LFBC submitted by Bennett matched their records (including but not limited to the place & date of birth and the parents’ names), and went a step further:


86 posted on 05/25/2012 11:17:51 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

That certifying statement says that the INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THE VITAL RECORD ON FILE was what they used to “verify” the facts of the vital event.

He’s saying that what he is verifying is what is in the vital record on file, which is what they were specifically asked to verify, from Bennett’s original request. Look at that request and you will see that he asked to verify the items FROM THE RECORD ON FILE.

But if you want to argue your point that they were verifying the true facts of Obama’s birth, then explain to me why they didn’t respond to the actual verification request form that Bennett originally filed - the one asking them to verify the date and place of birth and the parents’ names (the items relevant to Presidential eligibility).

As Wesley said to Buttercup in “The Princess Bride” (after she said of the vows “We sort of skipped that part...”) - “If you didn’t say it, you didn’t do it.”

Why did they skip the official verification of the critical facts from the official verification request form?


88 posted on 05/25/2012 12:34:35 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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