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To: butterdezillion

Please don’t waste anymore of your time responding to me. I have explained, in detail, repeatedy, why your premise and logic are wrong.

You keep repeating that the items on the request form were not verified. They WERE verified and I’ve explained HOW they were verified.

I said earlier that if you can’t come to understand the law regarding item #1, there is no need for us to discuss your points #2 & #3.

It’s a holiday weekend. Enjoy it with your family. I will do the same. Let’s part ways amicably agreeing to disagree.


144 posted on 05/27/2012 11:30:56 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

We’ll have to disagree because I’m asking clarifying questions and not getting responses to them.

Specific items from the request form are verified in a standard request. The HDOH did not verify those things. They verified the existence of a birth certificate which “indicates” a Honolulu, HI birth. Doesn’t “verify” a Honolulu, HI birth - just “indicates”. IOW, all that is being verified in #1 is the existence of a birth certificate. You’ve tried to say that all their legal tap-dancing shows that everything on Obama’s posted long-form has been verified as the accurate, legally valid truth. I disagree, and I’ve shown why - as well as asking clarifying questions to help you understand why your claims don’t make sense. You won’t answer those clarifying questions.

But my larger question for you - which you also refuse to even address - is why they DID all that legal tapdancing, if it all adds up to the same thing as them saying, “I verify that the State of HI has on file a legally valid, state-issued birth certificate for Barack Hussein Obama II and I verify that Barack Hussein Obama, II, a male, was born on Aug 4, 1961 in Honolulu, HI on Oahu to mother Stanley Ann Dunham and father Barack Hussein Obama”?

You keep saying the same stuff over and over. I keep asking questions that you don’t answer. Clearly we’re not having a conversation. You’re right that it is a waste of time for me to respond to you.


150 posted on 05/27/2012 12:44:14 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: BuckeyeTexan

I’m sorry, but your argument doesn’t stand up to scrutiny. Alvin T. Onaka Ph.D. provided an itemized list to say that they have a record on file that matches those items and YOU claimed that a “one-sentence” comment somehow verifies everything else that was not part of that itemized list. What would be the point of itemizing those items if a one-sentence reply verified the entire document?? And the attitude expressed in your comments comes across as unnecessarily condescending.


162 posted on 05/28/2012 12:41:47 AM PDT by edge919
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