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To: WhiskeyX

I think the kid is a dirtbag, but I’m quite sure GZ is not psychic. He had no idea that the kid smoked weed at some point in time. I’m also quite sure a person is innocent until proven guilty.(both parties) If TM was on top of GZ pummeling him, then it is self defense by GZ.


38 posted on 05/19/2012 5:39:57 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: EEGator
If TM was on top of GZ pummeling him, then it is self defense by GZ.

It may have even been an accident in the struggle for the gun. It could have been the other way if TM had gotten his hands on it first.
39 posted on 05/19/2012 5:43:24 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: EEGator

It’s not being “psychic” to see someone who acts like they are under the influence of drugs.

Here is Saint Trayvon at the 7-11.

http://www.wftv.com/videos/news/surveillance-trayvon-martin-at-store-night-of/vHLg7/

I’ve seen lots of people stoned and have known quite a few heavy users.

Here we see Saint Trayvon bouncing back and forth off the counter and rocking from side to side. At one point he uses one arm to prop himself up on the counter. He is constantly shifting back and forth.

He takes a long time to pay and he can’t quite figure out quickly how to pick out the right coins from his palm.

When he is finished paying he wanders off in the wrong direction for a while before figuring out which way the entrance is.

Saint Trayvon lookee like he bin smokee da weed....


43 posted on 05/19/2012 6:01:26 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: EEGator; WhiskeyX
"He had no idea that the kid smoked weed at some point in time."

GZs 911 call says "he looks like......he's on drugs or something". If that portion of the tape gets admitted, it'll open the door for all kinds of theories.

64 posted on 05/19/2012 7:34:24 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: EEGator
We did not say or imply that George Zimmerman was “psychic” or needed to know Trayvon Martin would test positive for THC in his post-mortem examination, so suggesting a need for psychic powers is a strawman argument unrelated to the actual comments. The presence of THC relates directly to the statements of the reporter in the quoted news. The claim that Trayvon Martin was not engaged in any criminal activity put forth by his parents and the news media is false insofar as Trayvon Martin was an illegal dealer in narcotics and a illicit drug abuser as evidenced by his social networking messages and by the THC in his bloodstream. While Trayvon Martin may or may not have been engaging in drug dealing and/or burglaries during the period of time of his encounter with the neighborhood watchman, George Zimmerman, Trayvon Martin is now known to have engqaged in past criminal activity of a kind which has the potential of providing a motive for Trayvon Martin to have attempted to assault or even murder George Zimmerman. The defense may provide a jury reasonable doubt by presenting evidence of motive, opportunity, and means for Trayvon Martin to have assaulted or even attempted the murder of the defendant as a continuation and expansion of past criminal activity.

The 911 recordings and the layout of the housing complex indicate Trayvon Martin intercepted and confronted George Zimmerman, and not the other way around. In other words, Trayvon Martin chose to confront George Zimmerman, when he could have much more easily have entered into the townhome where he was staying without George Zimmerman observing where Trayvon Martin had disappeared to. The fatal confrontation occurred only because Trayvon Martin chose to double back, intercept, and attack George Zimmerman. Trayvon Martin miscalculated when he failed to realize George Martin was armed until he had George Zimmerman on the ground and was beating him to death before getting shot by his armed victim. The jury will want to know why Trayvon Martin was motivated to forgo his opportunity to return to the townhome in peace and safety. Past criminal activity may provide such motivation and means.

92 posted on 05/20/2012 1:59:33 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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