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To: Elderberry
The explanations by everybody in Hawaii are all full of carefully constructed and parsed sentences and terms to avoid perjury prosecutions. State law seems to have been written to throw a legal veil of secrecy around everybody's public records (see below). Only the person whose record is being sought can go to Hawaii and look at it -- but NOT copy it! As we all know, the whole matter could be very easily put to rest if Obama were to release the BC he claims is in his possession.

Ex-Hawaii official denounces 'ludicrous' birther claims

April 11, 2011: Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the former director of Hawaii's Department of Health, inspected the files, taking with her the state official in charge of vital records. She found the original birth record, properly numbered, half typed and half handwritten, and signed by the doctor who delivered Obama.

She then put out a public statement asserting to the document's validity. She later put out another public statement in July 2009 — after reviewing the original birth record a second time.

...the shorter, computer generated "certification of live birth" that was obtained by the Obama campaign in 2007 and has since been publicly released is the standard document that anybody requesting their birth certificate from the state of Hawaii would receive from the health department.

The certification...shows that Obama was born in Honolulu at 7:24 p.m. on Aug. 4, 1961 [and] was based on the content of the original document in state files, Fukino said. "What he got, everybody got," said Fukino. "He put out exactly what everybody gets when they ask for a birth certificate."

Hawaiian officials say that the certification is, in fact, only one piece of abundant evidence of Obama's birth in Hawaii. Joshua Wisch, a spokesman for the Hawaii attorney general's office, noted that a public index of vital records, available for inspection in a bound volume at the Health Department's Office of Health Status Monitoring, lists a male child named "Obama II, Barack Hussein" as having been born in the state.

Wisch said state law does not in fact permit the release of "vital records," including an original "record of live birth" — even to the individual whose birth it records.

"It's a Department of Health record and it can't be released to anybody," he said. Nor do state laws have any provision that authorizes such records to be photocopied, Wisch said. If Obama wanted to personally visit the state health department, he would be permitted to inspect his birth record, Wisch said.

83 posted on 05/19/2012 11:39:29 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

First thing, note that Wisch - just like Deputy AG Jill Nagamine had done before - upon the birth index shown to the public in the HDOH office. But I have proven on my blog that the 1960-64 birth index includes legally non-valid records. See the 2nd NEW headline at http://www.butterdezillion.wordpress.com I’d post the link but my computer is freezing up when I go to my blog. sigh. This happens a lot.)

Wisch is an undeniable liar, according to this statement: “Nor do state laws have any provision that authorizes such records to be photocopied, Wisch said.”

HRS 338-13 (found at http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0013.htm ) says:

§338-13 Certified copies. (a) Subject to the requirements of sections 338-16, 338-17, and 338-18, the department of health shall, upon request, furnish to any applicant a certified copy of any certificate, or the contents of any certificate, or any part thereof.

(b) Copies of the contents of any certificate on file in the department, certified by the department shall be considered for all purposes the same as the original, subject to the requirements of sections 338-16, 338-17, and 338-18.

(c) Copies may be made by photography, dry copy reproduction, typing, computer printout or other process approved by the director of health. [L 1949, c 327, §17; RL 1955, §57-16; am L Sp 1959 2d, c 1, §19; HRS §338-13; am L 1978, c 49, §1]


102 posted on 05/19/2012 12:43:43 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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