Posted on 05/19/2012 9:29:10 AM PDT by James Thomas
Congratulations to Breitbart.com for reporting a story the site clearly didn’t care to publish. It seems that in 1991, Barack Obama was indeed representing himself to his literary agency as “born in Kenya, raised in Indonesia and Hawaii.”
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“Oh for heaven’s sake. This is not a birther issue, it is a frauder issue”
Tell that to the birthers. My point from the beginning was that this is not the smoking gun some are pretending it to be on NBC status. I’m with you on the frauder part. Not that he or anyone should go to jail, but on it probably being someone’s lie instead of an honest mistake.
“You seem to be naught but a scoffer.”
Again, so what if I am? Some things deserve to be scoffed at, and scoffing at legitimate scoffing is no answer.
A lie that Barack Obama would find it awfully hard to insulate himself from. What author is that ignorant of his own publicity for that long? If his “Kenyan birth” was news to him, it wouldn’t take long for the yack to get back to him: “Oh Barack! I never knew you were born in Kenya! Where in Kenya?” In which case any normal author would go “Oh hell! My publicist screwed up! Let me get on the horn to him/her right away!”
He does everything but think too much.
“When it comes to Obama’s birth fraud, every thing is a smoking gun Troll.”
For anyone paying attention, this is exactly what I objected to in my original post. Birthers, or many of them, tend to treat everything like a smoking gun. For those of you who no this is not a good thing, case closed.
“no” = know
And imagine any Republican being caught in fraud of that sort. It would be the kiss of hot smoking political death.
Oh no, another Obama eligibility thread (with 98 posts at the time I open it) and you’re in as the 2nd comment with a “..you birthers...” screed. Why do you insist upon insulting folks by calling them a dismissive name? When anyone starts out something by calling others “birthers” I wonder what is driving them. Instead, present some rational, constructive and fact-based discussion and lay off the name calling—you just might find yourself more respected.
You’re the lousiest cover-up mark cooler that has ever shown up here.
You make no effort to support your own absurdity.
“TROLL!”
Yell all you want, but it won’t help you outside your thread cocoon. Ever wonder if birthers are in the extreme minority not because everyone who disagrees with them is not a concerned citizen of differing opinion but a “TROLL!”, but maybe because they scream “TROLL” at everyone who disagrees with them?
TROLL
You are listless, having no rudder in the water, and you steer no course at all while urging others to drift about as aimlessly as you.
Why do you think he endorsed gay marriage? The folks in the bathhouses of Chicago either have pictures or a blue dress type of evidence OR both. They are black-male-ing him.
Obama’s libel suit against Larry Sinclair was just recently thrown out of court as well. And Larry apparently has spoken with Arpaio’s cold case posse. Just sayin...
Maybe he has engaged in such fagly indiscretions. Or maybe he hasn’t. (Strictly speaking that would be bisexuality given that his relationship with the Wookie isn’t in any serious question.) I take it the “gay marriage” thingy is a sign that all rationality has left the Democrats, at least those with the most influence. That it isn’t rumor blackmail, but money blackmail, that is ruling the day.
“Oh, no, your replies show beyond a shadow of a doubt that you’re still attempting to ‘bury the lead’ through your diversive ramblings.”
Huh? How, when in my very first post I said not only are non-birther “bullied by common sense [implying birthers lack common sense] and a lack of desperation to remove a president they hate from office on any pretext whatsoever [implying birthers are desperate to remove Obama on any pretext whatsoever],” in addition to saying “You birthers really, really have to stop pretending everything’s a smoking gun,” and comparing them to the boy who cried wolf? It’s not enough that other people disagree with you and you think they’re wrong, is it? They must be dissemblers as well. Only you argue properly, and it is your cross to bear.
“You seem intent on trying to avoid acknowledging that this directly points, in any way, to presidential eligibility.”
Why, yes, I do believe that. No, I have not avoided acknowledging that. My very first post on this thread said out loud and in front of God’s creation that this is not a smoking gun, and birthers do themselves a disservice by pretending it is. That lead was not buried. I don’t think this proves Obama is not an NBC, and I’m saying it again. (Countdown to you accusing me once again of hiding it in 5, 4, 3,...)
I enjoy that “directly...in any way,” by the way. Covers you from all angles, doesn’t it? “Why no, I didn’t mean directly directly, I said in any way.”
“You protest too much.”
More from the standard anti-troll textbook, I see. If I deny I’m a troll, I’m a troll because I deny it. If I respond to all the people who respond to me I’m protesting too much, because normal people let things slide. Which, incidentally, lets you win any argument by posting to someone a sufficient number of times.
Ah, but how about all the times you’ve protested against me by responding to what I say? Doesn’t that count, or am I the only half of the discussion under investigation? You’ve responded over 20 times to me, and were in fact the one who started the exchange as my original post was to the thread starter. Who’s protesting?
“And imagine any Republican being caught in fraud of that sort. It would be the kiss of hot smoking political death.”
It wouldn’t be their death, but would certainly be repeated on the nightly news for weeks. look, it’s not as if I don’t think it’s a legitimate story. It’s not as if had this been someone beside Obama it wouldn’t go in the scandal folder to be recalled whenever you want to score a point against them.
We see these double standards every day. Obama admits to doing drugs in his memoir, who cares? Bush hems and haws, and we are free to dog him with it at every campaign spot. Had he admitted it, it wouldn’t suddenly turn into non-news like for Obama. Oh, no, it’d be front page news, lead off the big three networks, and run 24/7 for a while on cable. You better believe Bush’s agent lying in an advertisement for his memoirs, likewise, would be a scandal.
The thing is, I don’t think it’s a smoking gun as regards his NBC status. I don’t think it’s much of anything as regards his NBC status. I don’t think he or anyone else should go to jail for it, and I defnitely don’t think he should be impeached for it. It’s yet another thing to add to the “Obama’s persona is an act” folder.
“I’m plucking your string
TROLL”
I think that makes you a troll. Isn’t that the definition of a troll, that they post in order to get rise out of others? You may say turnabout’s fair play, but for the record I said a bit more than “Birther!” in my posts.
I think about that CEO of what was it, some high flying California web firm, who got deposed because he had listed the wrong school in his resume?
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