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To: null and void

No, the form that is used for that asks specifically what you are asking to be verified from the vital record. So the place of birth, time of birth, parents, etc are all being asked for verification.

The problem is that HI cannot verify actual information from a late and/or amended BC because the state does not vouch for the accuracy of anything on a late or amended BC. HRS 338-13 says that the probative value of a late or amended BC is to be determined when presented as evidence to a judicial or administrative person or body.

IOW, if what the HDOH and OIP have already indicated through official UIPA responses is correct, the HDOH CANNOT legally verify anything from Obama’s birth record.

The HDOH has very carefully worded their previous statements to make it appear that they were verifying information, but the statements actually said that the RECORD “verifies” that he was born in HI. “Verifies” simply means swears to, and a complete BC has to include an oath somewhere on it.

Likewise, Fuddy claims that they printed out a BC but never claimed that what Obama posted is the BC that they sent out. And if previous HDOH and OIP responses were accurate, Fuddy would HAVE to know that what Obama presented was not what she sent because the original birth certificate would have to be stamped with “LATE” and/or “ALTERED” on the face of it so that it would show up on any copy made. It would also have to include a notation of what evidence was offered to support the amendment (and then-OIP Director Paul Tsukiyama did indicate that there are affidavits in support of information on Obama’s BC, which is only necessary for late and/or amended BC’s)

In this instance, Bennett is asking the HDOH itself to verify Obama’s birthplace, birthdate, parents, etc. According to what they’ve already revealed, they can’t legally do that. If they claim to legally verify any of those facts, then they’ve got contradictory, mutually-exclusive claims from their office and Bennett would/should be forced to audit the records to find out which of the HDOH’s claims is actually true.


65 posted on 05/19/2012 9:49:51 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion
Fuddy would HAVE to know that what Obama presented was not what she sent because the original birth certificate would have to be stamped with “LATE” and/or “ALTERED” on the face of it so that it would show up on any copy made.

Hmmmmmmmmmm, is that why the White House had to Photoshopp the document, to remove the over-stamp?

70 posted on 05/19/2012 10:15:37 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1215 of our ObamaVacation from reality [and what dark chill/is gathering still/before the storm])
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