Posted on 05/18/2012 5:58:15 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
Trayvon Martin's death was avoidable.
Thats the conclusion of a new police report on the unarmed teens killing at the hands of George Zimmerman in Sanford, Fla.
"The encounter between George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin was ultimately avoidable by Zimmerman, if Zimmerman had remained in his vehicle and awaited the arrival of law enforcement, or conversely, if he had identified himself to Martin as a concerned citizen and initiated dialog in an effort to dispel each party's concern," the document by Sanford, Fla. Police said.
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In the 7-11 video, after taking forever to pay for his goodies, he wanders aimlessly in the opposite direction of the exit, then turns and wanders back toward the front of the store and the door to outside. I'd say he was a bit confused as he looked like he didn't know where the exit from the store was.
“I am certain that is why the prosecution earlier implied that Zimmerman did just that”
I missed that, and have been aware only that they assert Zimmerman started the fight by following and confronting Martin, by leaving his truck instead of waiting for the cops, and by allegedly ignoring the 9-11 operator advising him that they don’t need him to continue following. You’re right that there’s no evidence Zimmerman brandished his gun, in which case it’s irresponsible for the prosecution to assert he did.
They are free to weave tales in press conferences and to lead the jury during opening and closing arguments, but the giant hole at trial where evidence that Martin pummeled Zimmerman in defense only after Zimmerman pulled his gun will be noticeable.
“Has anyone established why Martin was even in that neighborhood in the first place?”
His father lived there.
I never CLAIMED he was stone that instant but I believe he was indeed stoned. Either way, with THC in his system he was breaking the law which was the specific point I was making to refute the other poster's idiotic position.
The Anthony defense obviated all but two possibilities. The jury just picked the one with absolutely no evidence to support it.
Seriously?
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Please provide proof that Martin approached Zimmerman.
And, yeah, I do think that Zimmerman was a dope who got in over his head. You want to think he's captain America go right ahead.
You say a fight between Zimmerman and Martin occurred. One of the definitions of "fight" is to "take part in a violent struggle involving the exchange of physical blows. Show me the physical evidence on Zimmerman that proves he was "fighting" with Martin, and exchanged physical blows with him.
Didn’t move the goal line at all...my very first post on the thread asked for proof.
Persons my age call that “shacking-up”!
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Even if, hypothetically speaking, the evidence is so cloudy that it cannot be told who attacked whom — MR. Z SHOULD GO FREE. REASONABLE DOUBT.
Didn’t mean for you to think I was accusing you of claiming he was stoned. In my personal opinion, if he wasn’t stoned, or high, or under the influence of something that night, then he was a very slow-witted person based on his behavior at the store.
Please provide proof of the opposite!
All doubts you launch can be applied against your advocacy for T.
You've formulated a theory of the incident, based on what you "think" happened, not what can be proven by the physical evidence available.
And I'm asking you to provide proof that he didn't. Two can play this game.
Zimmerman’s folly was that of continuing to stand there after Martin had apparently gone? Not thinking that Martin might come back some different way and jump him?
This WAS after all an official Neighborhood Watch person.
“The Anthony defense obviated all but two possibilities.”
Explain this, because I don’t understand. Anyway, it is up to the prosecution to prove its case, and if the jury can come up with any reasonable scenario where what the prosecution speculates happened didn’t happen, then they are obliged not to convict.
And I'm asking you to provide proof that he didn't. Two can play this game.
Look I’ll be generous to a fault. The only possible hole there could be to Mr. Zimmerman’s explanation is how did Mr. Zimmerman miss noticing Mr. Martin’s approach from a different angle. The answer seems easy enough however given the circumstances of a thunderstorm, and that Mr. Martin was wearing sneakers and nothing noisy.
At the very WORST there is a stalemate between the theories, and Mr. Zimmerman ought to go free — and prosecution should have stood up to political pressure and said there is no ethical way they could press the case.
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