Posted on 05/15/2012 5:36:44 PM PDT by GoldenEagles
America and Britain together, could have won WWII without making an alliance with the Stalin Communists. What were the fruits of this alliance?
A. First, this alliance scaled back the degree to which America could call forth and access the resources of Divine Providence during the war. This fact increased our casualities substantially in all battles.B. This alliance placed us under the threat of nuclear annhilation for about 30 years.
C. This alliance brought us close to the brink of nuclear war in the early 1960's.
D. This alliance cost us the enslavement of Eastern Europe.
E. This alliances lost China to Communism.
F. This alliance forced us to spend megabucks in defense of Western Europe for more than 40 years.
You will know them by their fruits, both people and policies. This one fails the fruit test.
And this is a good point to make here. It is never profitable to betray your principles. Never. The cost will always be greater down the road. Again, this is the best way to understand the mandate, to Trust in God. By being faithful to principle, we must trust that things will work out for the best in the long run. That the Law of God will make sure this is so.
I just destroyed his Stalin Alliance Assertion. That should tell you that you have sort of an upside down sense of what is "brilliant".
When you are in the Willard Romney shadow, up is down, and down is up.
And conversely they could have lost...You and I dont know nor will we ever know.
And since you keep throwing God into the mix.... Maybe God wants Romney to win....ever think of that? Remember God works in mysterious ways
Or here is a novel thought for you :
maybe you are wrong
In fact your real problem is you think you know and you dont. And your thinking is second rate
Then of course, we can add the loss of the Vietnam war to that list, because of the Soviet Union was not made stronger, and China had not fallen to communism, there would have been no source of support of Ho Chi Minh and thus no Vietnam War. I will repost the original with these two additional points.
America and Britain together, could have won WWII without making an alliance with the Stalin Communists. Why would a nation sponsored by God need to ally itself with an Ahtheist totalitarian power to win any war? Such an alliance, on the face of it promises an explosion of problems in the future. And that is exactly what happened. What were the fruits of this alliance?
A. First, this alliance scaled back the degree to which America could call forth and access the resources of Divine Providence during the war. This fact increased our casualties substantially in all battles.B. This alliance placed us under the threat of nuclear annhilation for about 30 years.
C. This alliance brought us close to the brink of nuclear war in the early 1960's.
D. This alliance cost us the enslavement of Eastern Europe.
E. This alliance forced us to spend megabucks in defense of Western Europe for more than 40 years.
F. This alliance lost China to Communism. The Chinese Communists were armed and supplied by the Soviet Union.
G. This alliance between America and Stalin, established the circumstances that allowed the Korean war to take place. The tanks that rolled south were Soviet tanks after all. The divisions that pushed American forces back were Chinese Communist, again supplied by the Soviet Union. The division on the Korean pennisula remains a thorn in America's side to this very day.
H. This alliance resulted in the loss of the Vietnam war. If the Soviet Union had not been made stronger, and China had not fallen to Communism, there would have been no source of support for Ho Chi Minh and thus no Vietnam War, and thus no war to lose. Once immerses in the war, America was hemmed in by two nuclear armed Communist giants, which would have never emerged if it were not for the American/Stalin alliance in WWII.
You will know them by their fruits, both people and policies. This one fails the fruit test. This alliance produced one disaster after another for America and the world.
In like manner, bending to these temptations to make an alliance with a Rebel Against God in Willard Romney, will produce an endless chain of disasters into the future. This is what God has promised us after all. And his promises always come true. I am glad a Romney supporter brought this up.
And this is a good point to make here. It is never profitable to betray your principles. Never. The cost will always be greater down the road. Again, this is the best way to understand the mandate, to Trust in God. By being faithful to principle, we must trust that things will work out for the best in the long run. That the Law of God will make sure this is so.
No, I have never thought of that. Why would God want an individual to rise to the highest office in the land, if he will lead the people in rebellion against God himself?
For myself, I will put my life on the line for the proposition that the last thing that is in the interests of God, is the election of Willard Romney. That is how certain I am.
Perhaps you can explain this from a Romney supporter's point of view.
The permissive and desirous will of God aren’t identical entities (except to extreme Calvinists).
Few, let alone God, are truly “desirous” of Mitt Romney as a president. But perhaps even from a divine perspective, Mitt the unbeliever is more auspicious than Obama the unbeliever. The fatal flaw would be to view Mitt as anything more than a stop gap, just like the Hebrews in Egypt ultimately suffered when a system of Pharoahs that never did acknowledge the Hebrew God turned on them even though that first Pharoah was very friendly.
PLEASE THINK ABOUT THESE POINTS 1. Has any person whose name corresponds to the title of a famous horror movie ever put their name into nomination to become the President of the United States? No. 2. Has any person whose name corresponds to the title of a famous horror movie ever won the nomination of their Party to be their candidate for the President of the United States? No. 3. Because this has never happened before, it is NEWS. Perhaps not for Romney supporters, but it fits the definition of NEWS for the mainstream pro-Obama media. And it would fit into the definition of news for future historians and encyclopedias. This is an interesting piece of information at least. 4. How will they use it, i.e. once it becomes common knowledge in the newsrooms of the nation? Of course, they do not frequent FreeRepublic so this has not happened yet, but it will happen eventually, they will send it all around just for laughs. 5. And some enterprising journalist, who is asking questions during a presidential debate, will ask Willard how he feels about this, of course with a detailed prologue so everyone knows what he is talking about, and knows what to Google after the debate, and all of sudden, this is national news, the Republican Candidate tied to a horror movie. The movie is tied to his first name, the connection cannot be broken. Will his administration be a horror movie? This question automatically pops into everyone's mind. 6. This is like an IED buried in the road ahead, and you know they are going to detonate it when Romney's car passes over it, and you are going to have a big mess. 7. What EASY pickings. They would of course be smart to sit on it, that would take some discipline, until after Romney is officially nominated. And let it out in the middle of presidential debate, where newspapers could pick up on it on that basis. Romney supporters want to turn their attention away from this. But Obama's Machine will turn the attention of the whole American public in this direction. They can't help themselves. They will try to do it in a clever manner surely, but clever or no, once the FACT OF THE CONNECTION is in the public mind, it becomes a chain wrapped around the Romney campaign. People will wonder what does it mean? Some people will think to themselves, Romney supporters, it means nothing. But what about those who have no internal incentive to force the imagination to shut down all activity on this subject? We could have a contest here, and see who can come up with the best properly framed question that a journalist is likely to ask Romney during a presidential debate. For example: Wolf Blitzer: "Governor Romney, you appear to be the first candidate in American history whose first name corresponds to a popular and well-known horror movie, it goes by the name of Willard, who releases an army of rats onto his enemies. In my research, I found that there was no such movie named Franklin, no such movie named Harry, no such movie named Dwight, no such movie named John, no such movie named Lyndon, no such movie named Richard, no such movie named Gerald, no such movie named Jimmy, no such movie named Ronald, no such movie named George the First, no such movie named William, or even Bill, no such movie named George the Second, and no such movie named Barrack. I checked. You are unique, of all Presidential candidates during the movie making age, that has a horror movie of the same name. Willard. How do you feel about that? What can you possibly say to the American people that will convince them that your administration will not be just another horror movie?" One might think he could say, well, "look at my record in Massachusettes." But his job creation record was 47th out of 50 states during his years on the job. No matter what Romney says, the connection will be out there, and there is nothing he has ever done in his whole life that can neutralize that connection. Wasn't that car crash, where you were driving, where the wife of your Mormon mission leader was killed, a horror movie? Were not those businesses you shut down a horror movie for those who lost their jobs? The more people get into the process of trying to decide what in Mitt Romney's life was a horror movie and what was not, the deeper the connection to the actual horror movie will be. If Willard M. Romney is the Republican Party Nominee, every person in the United States will know, and will have this knowledge in their heads when they walk into the voting booth on November 4, 2012. Every person will know that the first name of the Republican Candidate for President, Willard M. Romney, has a horror movie of the same name, Willard, something about an army of deadly sharp teethed slashing rats. Then we can talk about down-ticket consequences. |
You and God seem pretty close ......What was he thinking when Obama was inaugurated?
The thoughts that would go through the Mind of God if Willard M. Romney were to be inaugerated, would be about the same as when Obama was inaugerated. There would not be much difference. They are both rebels against his Will.
In both cases, the American people would have to face the consequences of their decision to elect another individual who is in a state of rebellion Against God.
In both cases, the machinery of the Law would start moving in the direction of making those consequences felt.
Every trend of deterioration that we face today, would be accelerated whether Obama were re-elected, or if Romney were elected.
However, the consequences would be worse if Romney were re-elected, as this represents the Republican Party being pulled into the shadow of overt rebellion, where before it tried to stand on the outside of that shadow. If Romney were to be elected therefore, the deterioration trends would accelerate at a higher degree, than if Obama were re-elected.
Again, if Obama were re-elected, deterioration trends would accelerate, because the American people would have again elected an individual who stands for rebellion against God. Each choice has its consequences. But Romney's election would be a higher degree of acceleration because this represents an increase in the total number of people who voted for rebellion against God's Law. That is to say, an increase in the number of people who say, we don't care about God's Law.
God sent his Prophets to give us the law, so that we could predict before hand, and fairly accurately, the consequences of our actions.
What is God thinking? God is always thinking about fulfilling his Law, and fulfilling his promises. He is always thinking about making sure that every promise he has made us, will be kept in full. If he says, If you do "A" I will do "B", then when we do "A" God will instantly start thinking about, and implementing "B". It is fairly simple.
God is always thinking about how to give us the best possible gifts, as we are his children, but those gifts can only be given if we make ourselves ready to receive them. Therefore, the Mind of God is always engaged in planning and acting to help to move his children into the place where they can receive His best gifts. This is quite an activity, as there are more than 5 billion people on this planet alone. One of the most important criteria for receiving the greatest gifts of God, is the freewill choice to study the law, know the law, and to align one's life with the Law.
The Mind of God has these thoughts not just about individuals, but about the nations to which they are a part, and about the planet, which is the vehicle of expression for the nations, and the solar system which is the framework for the existence and ongoing operation of this planet.
Dear Jim
Golden Eagles replied to my question about God and Obama with the above post.
Is this the kind of stuff you condone on FR now?
I am at a loss for words...are we to believe that God will hate Romney more than Obama ? It makes me feel pretty creepy to think that this is what now passes for thoughtful opinions on FR . I put it in the “political/religious nut” file....but maybe Im not being open minded enough.
If you want to zot me for not towing the line on Romney fine ...I would prefer not to get zotted however and I have been around a while.
Maybe I need a sabbatical for a while as I find this kind of thing too far “out there” and it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
(what will the neighbors think?)
I remember your coming down hard on nutty stuff like Inspector Smith and his BC
I believe you also came down on Quix over space aliens or something.
I guess I am uncomfortable with some theology that says God’s will can be known absolutely and He is vehemently anti Romney.....but I can always simply shut up and leave it alone
Har!
Just in case I get booted out over this I wanted to call your attention to this:
#165 #168 #171 #172 #173
Forgot #165
That poster is a Sleeper Troll.
Been here since 2000 and has only two pages of history.
Had no clue who Andrew Brietbart is.
interesting
thanks
No problem. I stand with you.
It raises some interesting questions as I respect most people on FR even though at times I really disagree with them
I also think this guy sincerely believes what he says and he is entitled to his opinions no matter what... but I also think this kind of thing reflects badly on FR. Its one thing to say “I hate so and so” and quite another to say “God hates so and so” If someone believes God hates Romney what is the difference between that and those nut cases who think God hates Queers and the military? Cant think of their names but they are a real nuisance
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