Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Army soldier brutally beaten in South Tampa
10 News ^ | May 14, 2012 | Grayson Kamm

Posted on 05/15/2012 6:31:30 AM PDT by eak3

Tampa, Florida -- Police want your help finding four men who teamed up to beat a young U.S. Army soldier in a South Tampa street.

It was an awful welcome to Tampa Bay for a young soldier. Police say the victim of a violent beating caught on camera is 24 years old and has lived in Tampa for less than a month.

(Excerpt) Read more at wtsp.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: blackcrime; crime; holderspeople; thugs
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-67 next last
To: eak3
Hmmm wonder if tall white pointy hats would be a good business to get into?
41 posted on 05/15/2012 8:53:32 AM PDT by bikerman (you can take the man out of the jungle but can't take the jungle out of the man)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Once again, in a situation like this, I would much prefer an appropriate knife, as the closing distance was too narrow for effective, unprepared gun use.

He was a soldier who was situationally unaware that he was in a combat zone, and the group ahead of him were probable hostiles.

In such a situation, the best thing to do is to increase distance (slow down and let them get further ahead, or cross the street). If they change course to intercept, then they have confirmed hostile intent, and you should be prepared to draw rather than allow them to come into contact distance, plus "check your six" for additional hostiles.

42 posted on 05/15/2012 8:55:45 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I canÂ’t be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: rightwingextremist1776

Statistically this would more likely be black-on-black crime. That is the most common thing.


43 posted on 05/15/2012 8:57:00 AM PDT by steve8714 (Who didn't already know Obama was our first gay President?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: headstamp 2

This is exactly the kind of crap that has made me lose all faith I’n our
Federal gub mint and become a racist


44 posted on 05/15/2012 9:33:36 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: headstamp 2

This is exactly the kind of crap that has made me lose all faith I’n our
Federal gub mint and become a racist


45 posted on 05/15/2012 9:33:38 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: rightwingextremist1776
Three blacks one Mexican was the thugs that beat this hero up..I'll bet the bums were on welfare and have about fifty kids among them..When will people get tired of this and retaliate against these chicken trash..
46 posted on 05/15/2012 9:36:11 AM PDT by PLD (It is time the freeloaders leave the white house and go back to the hell hole where they came from..)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: eak3

It is time to aggressively go after these apes. Start with special forces planting “bait” subjects at 3am and take out
anyone with ill intent. Repeat until these feral animals are either all dead or afraid of their own shadows.


47 posted on 05/15/2012 9:36:48 AM PDT by soycd
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rightwingextremist1776
Three blacks one Mexican was the thugs that beat this hero up..I'll bet the bums were on welfare and have about fifty kids among them..When will people get tired of this and retaliate against these chicken trash..
48 posted on 05/15/2012 9:44:13 AM PDT by PLD (It is time the freeloaders leave the white house and go back to the hell hole where they came from..)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: PapaBear3625

> ...plus “check your six” for additional hostiles.

Minor note: “back to the wall first”, since it limits the hostiles from 360 degrees to first 270 degrees then to 180 degrees. Once you know your back is clear you can go dynamic again. Shouldn’t take long.

Then, if you are armed, if it is a group, a deep doorway is good to further narrow their approach, and limit any large long weapons, like baseball bats.


49 posted on 05/15/2012 9:50:50 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: eak3

Looks like they’re wearing hoodies.


50 posted on 05/15/2012 10:00:35 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tomkat

That’s right, will the last decent person standing still cry “no vigilantism?” Or will we wait till it’s too late? Most countries have at least a little revolution before the slide into tyranny. Looks like most folks are willing to go without a whimper.....


51 posted on 05/15/2012 10:38:10 AM PDT by Quickgun (Second Amendment. The only one you can put your hands on.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: TSgt

And one of the thugs was wearing a—GASP—hoodie!!


52 posted on 05/15/2012 11:58:43 AM PDT by Hulka
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
If nothing else, take the tire iron with you.

Nothing could have helped that kid, the attack happened so fast that he couldn't have pulled the pin on a grenade if he had one in his hand.....

He was screwed the moment his car broke down at that time in the morning......

53 posted on 05/15/2012 12:26:13 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (My 6 pack abs are now a full keg......)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: PapaBear3625
the best thing to do is to increase distance (slow down and let them get further ahead, or cross the street).

The video evidence clearly shows that the point man in the initial assault came from the 3 o'clock position at an extemely accelerated pace, with the attack force following. All of whom were availing themselves of the natural cover being provided by the vehicle. The final assailant was clearly providing backup support in the event the target should become aware of the ambush that was awaiting him and likely prepared to launch his own assault had the victim been permitted to enter retreat mode.

I'm sure he was on full situational awareness alert but the nature of the attack, the numbers of overwhelming force involved prevented him from taking any immediate evasive maneuvers.....

And not having the advantage of any back-up support personnel, he was screwed..........

54 posted on 05/15/2012 12:57:16 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (My 6 pack abs are now a full keg......)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: Hot Tabasco

No, I don’t buy that for a minute.

At 3am on foot in a bad neighborhood, nobody in their right mind is casual, especially when one or more individuals approach them.

If you *know* you will be driving late through a bad neighborhood, you definitely arm yourself with *something*. Even a steak knife can be highly effective.

You never, ever let a stranger approach you in that type time and place, certainly not within sucker punch range. And if they try, your weapon, whatever it is, is ready.

And situational awareness is vital. You don’t walk 50 paces without checking to be sure you are not being followed, you walk to avoid ambush spots like alleys, giving them a wide berth which gives you the advantage of spotting someone “just on the other side” first.

You never neglect other people on the street, because if you think about it, what *legitimate* purpose can anyone have hanging out on a street at 3am?

This should be very basic stuff. Each and every time, because you only need to be careless once to get rolled.


55 posted on 05/15/2012 1:04:58 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 53 | View Replies]

Comment #56 Removed by Moderator

To: rarestia

it isn’t that bad...of course, at 3:00am is a different story...but yes, a mixed neighborhood, SOG City (south of Gandy Blvd)

but it isn’t exactly 40th St & Lake Ave.


57 posted on 05/15/2012 1:46:15 PM PDT by representativerepublic (...loose lips, sink ships)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: cuban leaf
The picture shows a mossberg 500 series. Remington pumps are 870 series.
58 posted on 05/15/2012 2:59:54 PM PDT by riverrunner
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: Hot Tabasco

Well, gee. Having had lots of friends (ages 15-25) attacked by gangs of thugs over the years, yet the worst any of them came out of it was “even”, call me dubious. Granted several of them were either martial artists or cowboy types, used to fighting, and their assailants were either white or Mexican, the same general rules apply.

Yeah, some innocent suburban snowflake, not raised to fighting or toughness, is going to get thumped even on Maple Street in broad daylight. Well, it sucks to be him. He wasn’t raised right.

Hopefully, a “street smart” NCO will take him under his wing and teach him how to do the man stuff. Either that or he’s going to keep getting thumped until he figures it out himself.


59 posted on 05/15/2012 4:36:58 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 56 | View Replies]

To: representativerepublic
Thanks for bringing that up.

Less than a month on base, he probably didn't know the area very well. Lots of “pockets” of very bad areas in Tampa.

But he wouldn't have been any safer in broad daylight in south Lakeland, sitting in his parked car at a strip mall.

A couple of local high school boys got car-jacked by a gun wielding black man at the Lake Miriam shopping center, forced to pick up an accomplice across the street at the McDonalds, and then forced to drive them to Bartow...it didn't make the news, though.

I wonder if the Lakeland Ledger added it to the crime map? /s

60 posted on 05/15/2012 5:16:49 PM PDT by sarasmom ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xZsFe6dM3EY)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 57 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-67 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson