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Why does gay marriage keep losing at the ballot box? (WaPo writers asks and tries to explain)
Washington Post ^ | 05/09/2012 | Rachel Weiner

Posted on 05/10/2012 7:42:45 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Gay marriage is increasingly accepted across the country. More Americans support gay marriage (47 percent) than oppose it (43 percent), according to a recent Pew survey. In 2004, 60 percent of Americans opposed it in Pew data. Only 8 percent were strongly in favor. In 2004, a majority did not support gay marriage in any state; by 2010, a majority did in 17.

Yet 32 times since 1998, voters have gone to the polls and voted against gay marriage.* Thirty-eight states prohibit gay marriage in some fashion. Even in “blue” states like California, Oregon and Delaware, gay marriage bans stand. North Carolina’s Amendment One Tuesday night was just the latest in a long line of failures at the ballot box for proponents of gay marriage. (Support for bans is falling over time, according to HRC: in 2004 they passed on average 71 percent to 29 percent, but in 2008 the average was 57 percent to 43 percent.)

Gay marriage has had more success in courts and state legislatures. But still, only six states and the District of Columbia allow gay marriage.

What explains the discrepancy between the national movement toward legalization of gay marriage with the repeated failures of such measures at the ballot box? A lot of it comes down to timing.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gaymarriage; homosexuality
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1 posted on 05/10/2012 7:42:50 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Ah, she’s just a weiner.

No wonder she’s trying to rationalize.

Nothing like a good rationalization.


2 posted on 05/10/2012 7:46:17 AM PDT by RexBeach (Mr. Obama Can't Count.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“A lot of it comes down to timing”

No, a lot comes down to fake polling.


3 posted on 05/10/2012 7:46:45 AM PDT by tobyhill (Conservatives are proud of themselves, Liberals lie about themselves)
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To: SeekAndFind
A lot of it comes down to timing.

BS...a lot of the acceptance percentages come down to rigged data.

4 posted on 05/10/2012 7:46:45 AM PDT by ibytoohi
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To: SeekAndFind

Why do I have the feeling that Rachel has an I’m-a-boy hairdo? No amount of trumpeting from the rooftops will stem the inevitable. This is a bubble that is about to burst like a hurricane all over the Left’s marvelously constructed alternate reality.


5 posted on 05/10/2012 7:47:33 AM PDT by AdaGray
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To: RexBeach

Here’s her rationalization :

“Primaries, like the one in North Carolina last night, are particularly low turnout affairs— giving opponents to gay marriage the edge.”

In other words to this writer, a lot more people REALLY support gay marriage but these people don’t bother don’t bother to vote.


6 posted on 05/10/2012 7:48:12 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

lie in the first sentence of the “story”. Homosexual “marriage” is NOT accepted across the country. It might be accepted in NY and California, but real Americans don’t accept it

NY and California are full of insane people and the rest of the country isn’t about to be dictated to by them


7 posted on 05/10/2012 7:50:20 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s because we have a private ballot. We are truly free to vote our conscience.


8 posted on 05/10/2012 7:50:40 AM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Gee...why do ordinary citizens not like gay marriage?

Do you suppose it could be...because it’s an ABOMINATION?
Do you suppose it could be...because WE are GROSSED OUT beyond measure at the very THOUGHT of it it?
Do you suppose it could be...that it GOES AGAINST THE VERY DESIGN of a human?
Do you suppose it could be...that GOD HIMSELF has declared it a SIN?

Naaah. It’s because we’re all a bunch of un-enlightened, knuckle-dragging, religious bigots. Yeah, that’s the ticket. /sarc


9 posted on 05/10/2012 7:52:00 AM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: SeekAndFind
Why does gay homosexual marriage keep losing at the ballot box? (WaPo writers asks and tries to explain)

Because it's unnatural . . . that's why. It's kinda' like trying to convince us that Mooch-elle's not fat.

10 posted on 05/10/2012 7:52:53 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: yldstrk

Actually California voters REJECTED gay marriage. New York voters were never given a chance to decide. It was rammed through the State legislature with big payoffs from leftist financiers, like BLoomberg, to opponents so they would switch sides. It was a vile act of political corruption.


11 posted on 05/10/2012 7:54:09 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: SeekAndFind
"Bradley" effect...

"Sure, I support equal rights for gays and minorities and aliens..."
12 posted on 05/10/2012 7:54:14 AM PDT by evets (beer)
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To: SeekAndFind

It lost BIG in NC. And it lost in traditional Democrat areas where there are large % of minorities.


13 posted on 05/10/2012 7:54:19 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: laweeks

She is puzzled because she observes this stat:

“More Americans support gay marriage (47 percent) than oppose it (43 percent)”.

I don’t know here she gets this data from, but there it is.


14 posted on 05/10/2012 7:54:51 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: WashingtonSource

I don’t care. California and NY are depraved


15 posted on 05/10/2012 7:54:55 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: SeekAndFind
A lot of it comes down to timing.

A LOT of it comes down to gays going from wanting to have privacy in their bedrooms, to wanting 'tolerance' of their lifestyle in public to now demanding legal endorsement of it.

16 posted on 05/10/2012 7:56:17 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a ~Person~ as created by the Law of Nature, not a 'person' as created by the laws of Man)
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To: tobyhill
No, a lot comes down to fake polling.

Or a lot of people who don't want to say to a pollster that they are against non-diverse marriage* politely lying to get the pollster to go away.




* A non-diverse marriage marriage is one where their is no diversity in its sexual make-up. Since diversity is a "good thing" and since the population is roughly 50%/50% male/female, each marriage should reflect the diversity of the populace. Otherwise, there is de facto sexual bias in a marriage if only one sex is represented.

17 posted on 05/10/2012 7:58:14 AM PDT by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Notice the reference to the “success” they have when the issue is decided against the will of the people by an “enlightened” judiciary...


18 posted on 05/10/2012 7:58:18 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: yldstrk

Hold on a moment. We here in California voted to ban gay marriage in 2008. It was overturned by a sodomite judge.


19 posted on 05/10/2012 7:58:37 AM PDT by skimask
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To: SeekAndFind
it comes down to the proponents appealing to a person's feelings.

If the facts were emphasized there would be little support for gay marriage.

What are he facts? There are a multitude of them.

Start with history - from time immemorium all civilizations and religions have outlawed the practice.

Look at the natural world - male/female couplings are the norm, with very few exceptions.

Look at science - scientists for many years have tried to prove homosexuality is part of DNA, and have failed.

Look at the polls - advocates say 10% of the population is homosexual but the scientifically valid surveys reveal only 2% are, slightly less for women, slightly more for men.

And lastly look at Scripture where there are several passages stating sodomy is sinful and some say an abomination.

there is more

20 posted on 05/10/2012 7:58:37 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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