Posted on 05/10/2012 2:19:06 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
If youve ever said that homosexuality is a sin, theres a good chance that someone tried to correct you with, Jesus never said anything about homosexuality. It doesnt matter what Bible verse you believe bolsters your claim, they believe that Jesus silence on the matter trumps all other considerations. But there are a number of reasons why this objection doesnt work.
First, its not certain that Jesus never said anything about homosexuality. The Gospel writers didnt record everything that Jesus said only what they thought was important to their audience. Indeed, most of what Jesus said (and did) was never written down. John 21:25 says, And there are also many other things which Jesus did, which if they were written in detail, I suppose that even the world itself would not contain the books that would be written. Its possible Jesus did talk about homosexuality, but the Gospel writers didnt feel it was necessary to include it in their accounts.
Second, its clear what Jesus would say about homosexuality if asked. Jesus was an observant Jew who, like all Jews living under the Old Covenant, was bound by the Mosaic Law. Thats why He often referenced it (e.g. Jesus references the two greatest commandments in Matthew 22:37, 39). Therefore, if He was asked what He thought about homosexuality, He would have cited the Levitical prohibitions (Leviticus 18:20 and 20:13) that unequivocally state that homosexual behavior is a sin.
Third, Jesus did not speak about every immoral behavior. Should we infer that drunkenness, child sacrifice, and neglecting the elderly are appropriate since Jesus never said anything about them either? Thats absurd. Jesus addressed moral issues as they arose in conversation with His disciples and opponents. And even then, not every discussion was documented by the Gospel writers.
Fourth, the argument that Jesus never said anything about homosexuality presumes that the words of Jesus are more authoritative than the words of Scripture elsewhere. But it is the Holy Spirit God Himself who inspired all of the Bible, including epistles like Romans, 1 Corinthians, and 1 Timothy where homosexuality is addressed. Moreover, Jesus and the Holy Spirit co-exist in the Godhead and have been in perfect and eternal communion from eternity past. Therefore, we can be confident that Jesus agrees with what the Holy Spirit revealed about moral issues in the Bible.
Jesus scriptural silence on homosexuality is not relevant to the moral question. It seems like people are unwilling to accept what the Bible teaches when it conflicts with their own sensibilities.
As Catholics we believe in the Trinity (the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit in One Being); that Being made it clear where homosexuality stood.
Yeah, Jesus never talked about Cell Phones or Hip-Hop music, or Dancing with the Stars.
Jesus never talked about stealing cable TV either...so what’s this mean??
Maybe not, but ‘Dad’ sure made his opinoins known to the Sodomites.
Jesus only spoke of MEN and WOMEN being married
Mt 19:3 The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?
Mt 19:4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made [them] at the beginning made them male and female,
Mt 19:5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
Mt 19:6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
He also performed His first public miracle at a wedding (a heterosexual one), which some take to mean He placed some significance in the sacrament.
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Actually, Jesus DID condemn homosexuality. In both Matthew and Mark he condemns “pornea”. Pornea is the Greek word usually translated as “fornication” but it means any kind of unnatural or wrongful sexual behavior. In first century Jewish culture this would have certainly included homosexual behavior.
Romans 1:
[22] Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
[23] And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
[24] Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
[25] Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
[26] For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
[27] And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
[28] And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
[29] Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
[30] Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
[31] Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
[32] Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
I thought there were fish in those baskets, not sausage...
An acquaintance once used this very line on me.
I responded with, “Jesus is God. Do you think God the Son and God the Father disagreed on this and are hashing it out up in heaven as we speak?” Impossible - they are one.
When God the Father wrote that homosexuality is an abomination, that was also God the Son.
Waiting for Obama to let us know that his Christian faith guided his thinking on abortion.
Ha..good luck on that one! You are going to wait a long, long time.
After 20 yrs under Jeremiah Wright, Obama’s views on Christ and His words are so twisted and so unbiblical, it’s not even funny.
Jesus did not come to over rule the Law, rather to fulfill it. That covers a LOT of ground. All of it, really.
As humans, we're as condemned as W.C. Fields thought he was. Jesus Christ IS our LOOPHOLE.
I make it a habit not to argue Biblical truths with those who really have no interest in learning the truth. They know nothing about it, nor are they concerned with it, so no amount of debate makes a difference. Only God can illuminate the eyes and heart of the lost.
Ping for later
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