Posted on 05/06/2012 8:09:35 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
Attention "Anyone But Obama" (ABO) FReepers! If you go to the thread at the link you will will see that JimRob has "declared a truce" and hundreds of ABO FReepers are now vigorously defending their belief, which I share, that the ineligible Marxist Manchurian MUST BE DEFEATED to preserve the Republic...without fear of "the ZOT"! Please consider a DONATION not just to fund renewal of expression and amplification of your ABO views, but let's over-achieve this FReepathon to get JR his new equipment!
IMO, Free Republic and FReepers could be vital in swing states in rallying just enough conservatives to tip the election and prevent our troops from having to salute for even one day longer than necessary an ineligible Marxist committed to destroying the USA !
Maybe you should just leave if this isn’t to your liking Grey, otherwise it would seem you’re being here is to cause havoc rather than come to any resolution.
You haven’t liked this site for quite awhile now as your forum clearly expresses.....so truly why do you continue here?
EF is a hardline admitted atheist. Period.
EF is a Atheist Bigot. And, IMO has his own little agenda here...and that is to stop all religious talk/debate.
The very fact you "find" debate, facts, defense, discussion..un-American is frankly UN-AMERICAN!!
An attack on a religion, or a lack of religion, for no other reason except to trash it, IMHO, is very un-American [Eastforker, post #157]
To me, to heartily bash Americans as "un-American" is not only reminscent of McCarthy's committee of "un-American" activities, but is one of the worst "bashes" you can make on a thread that surrounds a focus on a "Free Republic."
Beyond that, it's a self-refutation when both of these posters are seemingly concerned about the "bashing" going on of those they bash as "un-American."
Sure. If somebody wants to come here with their virtual pulprit and preach, "Thou shalt not bash." By all means...proceed...But you know...we expect preachers to practice the "non-bashing." We don't expect the preachers of "non-bashing" to try to lead a bashing choir...[see post #395 for yet another bash of Reaganaut's religious principles]
Otherwise it comes across as Ghandi preaching non-violence, all as he commits it!
Oh and totally discounting everything else I wrote because you got called out.
To help you understand what I really said (though if you actually read the words, you'll get it on your own)......
I said that long ago I decided I needed to stay away from "religious threads," and it is in that context I used the word "demonic." (That usually was the anti-Christian side, but sometimes included both sides of the arguments).
The idea that everyone claiming to be a Christian on the Internet actually IS one, and the idea that every word proceding from the mouth of even those of us who ARE Christians is of God doesn't jibe with Scripture.
Do you remember when Jesus said to Peter, "Get thee behind me, Satan?" Do you think that Peter knew he was being used by the devil at that time?
If you don't understand that spiritual warfare also includes trying to bring down Christians by luring them into the sins of unrighteous anger, arrogance, self-absorbtion, hatred, spite, ego, willful blindness, and every other evil, your knowledge of the Scripture you claim to believe is shallow and imprecise.
We are ALL sinners, saved by Grace, and shouting nasty things on the Internet to those who disagree with us and then calling it 'defending the faith' is something we ALL need to be aware of and pray for the strength and wisdom to fight against.
I don't know for sure, of course, but I highly doubt that many, if any, come to a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ by being belittled and brow beaten on an internent forum.
Uh....
Thinking like a MORMON???
Called out for what? Your entire premise was based on factual error.
ROFLOL!!....WOW...what a statement!! You and EF need to get a room.
No one is going to come to Christ via the brow beating that is visible here, if anything, the exact opposite will occur.
Nobody here on this tread...that I've read is trying to win someone to Christ.
I generally see...people here warning others about false religions. ie: mormonism.
I figure that's your rub....though, and you call it, bigotry.
You know; there is nothing wrong with this; as it is my wish as well.
There seems to be two types of folks in this thread, and they are both right.
One type will 'accept' Romney; thinking he is slightly better than Obama. The others think that NEITHER is worth a tinker's damn and are focused on a longer view.
What is weird, though, is that in BOTH camps there are those that are REALLY upset that religion has, one, reared it's ugly head, or, two, it's not being represented 'correctly'; especially by ME.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
If eastforker is an atheist, which I do not know nor care about, his “religion” is equally valid as mormonism, catholicism, baptist, anabaptist, anglican, shia, sunni, ba’hai, shinto, the various types of judaism and buddism .... got bored writing them so add any others you feel like.
Bashing anyones religion is un-American. It is right there in that document you are so proud of and many posters and members here are sworn to defend.
“Prohibiting free exercise of” - ridicule is equally effective as threats and intimidation and far more damaging.
I don’t know eastforker from Adam. As far as I recall we have never talked, argued with each other, or agreed with each other on anything.
But he is right by the very words of your law.
Well at least we all know your level of comprehension, and understand why you wrote something that had no bearing whatsoever on anything I actually said.
I figured there was an ulterior motive that had nothing to do with actual faith in Christ.
Thanks for letting me know. Conversation over.
Blessings.
You guys are worse than cockroaches.
Ma'am??
We've not heard of MORMON cockroaches...
...but we HAVE some knowledge of MORMON Crickets...
Thanks for this clarification.
I was thinking you had some kind of FACTUAL problem with my posts.
Should be; But I suspect that THIS may be be on a lot of posters Ipods...
WOW!
The ULTIMATE trump card - even better than shouting NAZI!!!
Brigham Young...
"For unbelievers we will quote from the Scriptures - "Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God." Again - "Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh, is of God."
I will now give my scripture - "Whosoever confesseth that Joseph Smith was sent of God to reveal the holy Gospel to the children of men, and lay the foundation for gathering Israel, and building up the kingdom of God on the earth, that spirit is of God; and every spirit that does not confess that God has sent Joseph Smith, and revealed the everlasting Gospel to and through him, is of Antichrist.......
- BrighamYoung
Here's some MORE for MORMON's...
"Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned; and I will go still further and say, take this revelation, or any other revelation that the Lord has given, and deny it in your feelings, and I promise that you will be damned.
- JoD 3:266 (July 14, 1855)
It is true that the earth was organized by three distinct characters, namely, Eloheim, Yahovah, and Michael, these three forming a quorum, as in all heavenly bodies, and in organizing element, perfectly represented in the Deity, as Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.
Again, they will try to tell how the divinity of Jesus is joined to his humanity, and exhaust all their mental faculties, and wind up with this profound language, as describing the soul of man, "it is an immaterial substance!" What a learned idea! Jesus, our elder brother, was begotten in the flesh by the same character that was in the garden of Eden, and who is our Father in Heaven. Now, let all who may hear these doctrines, pause before they make light of them, or treat them with indifference, for they will prove their salvation or damnation.
I have given you a few leading items upon this subject, but a great deal more remains to be told. Now, remember from this time forth, and for ever, that Jesus Christ was not begotten by the Holy Ghost.
- JoD 1:50-51 (April 9, 1852)
The rank, rabid abolitionists, whom I call black-hearted Republicans, have set the whole national fabric on fire. Do you know this, Democrats? They have kindled the fire that is raging now from the north to the south, and from the south to the north. I am no abolitionist, neither am I a proslavery man; I hate some of their principles and especially some of their conduct, as I do the gates of hell. The Southerners make the negroes, and the Northerners worship them; this is all the difference between slaveholders. and abolitionists. I would like the President of the United States and all the world to hear this.
Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot. This will always be so.
- JoD: vol.10 p. 110: (March 8, 1863)
It looks like BrighamYoung was pretty good at bashings.
An attack on a religion, or a lack of religion, for no other reason except to trash it, IMHO, is very un-American [Eastforker, post #157]
In honor of the sentiments expressed above, 'tis overdue for...
1. "Thou shalt not bash."
2. "If thy bash, thout art unabashadly 'Un-American' (or ______ fill-in-the-blank)"
3."Yes, this kind of name-calling, too (in #2) is indeed bashing religious people. ('Tis no way to get around, tho, we've tried)"
4. "But, hey, we can get away with it. We not only don't hold ourselves to the same standards we pin upon others...(Hence, the title), but we're the favored elitist bashers 'round these parts...We're so good at it we bash and nobody seems to know it!"
5. "We, after all, have a license to bash religious posters as 'Un-American' (or ________ fill-in-the-blank)
Signed...Certain Sentimentalists
If I may, you should add this to your list:
Who is more likely to shut down websites like Freerepublic?””
I made the same veiled reference to such an action. It is disheartening to see how so many freepers don’t get how evil a man Bo really is. Even Romney is a saint by comparison. To make the statement that romney is bo lite is simply beyond the pale. I don’t like most of romney’s record, but to suggest that he has the visceral hatred for America that Bo has is just not believeable.
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