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A Surprising Statistic About The Long-Term Unemployed (Breaking them down by education)
Business Insider ^ | 05/05/2012 | Joe Weisenthal

Posted on 05/05/2012 6:18:30 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Pew is out with a new study (.pdf) about the long-term unemployed in America.

The long-tern unemployed are people who have been unemployed at least a year, and as you can see (and as you should know by know), the scale of the problem these days is way bigger than it has been during any other period over the last half a century.

Click the chart to enlarge.

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What's interesting is that the population that makes up the long-term unemployed is very different than the unemployed population as a whole.

Check out this breakdown of the unemployed and long-term unemployed by level of education.

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Pew

Those who have just a high-school diploma, or less than a high-school diploma are vastly over-represented among the unemployed (the red bar) but among the long-term unemployed (the blue bars), they're rather under-represented. In fact, the Less Than High-School category is the lowest among the long-term unemployed.

The answer to that can be explained by this chart, probably, which shows the age of the long-term unemployed.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: charts; education; jobs; unemployed; unemployment
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1 posted on 05/05/2012 6:18:33 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

My niece is on her third round of government paid schooling.
Hey why not, education paid
Cash assistance, food stamps, transportation assistance etc, etc, etc.


2 posted on 05/05/2012 6:23:13 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Breitbart)
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To: SeekAndFind

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3 posted on 05/05/2012 6:24:18 AM PDT by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Obama Revolution.


4 posted on 05/05/2012 6:28:45 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: SeekAndFind

This is why some liberals want to make a college degree free for all citizens.

What they do not realize is that the value of a college degree is declining over time because the education received is less useful to our eocnomy.


5 posted on 05/05/2012 6:29:49 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Insightful comment at the article:

"Interesting -- but not very useful.

To see where our employment meltdown is taking us, you need to look at trends in labor participation rates, by increasing education and by increasing age. I did, and both are falling.

In other words, the percent of people with little or no education who have jobs is increasing -- while the percent of highly educated, employed with high paying jobs, is decreasing. The same applies to seniors and their cohorts. Both trends have been in place for a while – and are increasing.

It's what you'd expected for an economy that better rewards the relatively unproductive labors of financing, educating, litigating, and nursing than of actually DOING the productive, high value-added labor needed to generate at least as much, or more, economic wealth than we consume as a nation.

There’s no way to recover that high value added labor – sufficient to our nation’s consumption – without corresponding changes to the roles, goals and rewards our economy offers. As long as capital accumulation, control and intermediation is better rewarded than its productive investment and use – we’ll continue to see less of the latter and more of the former – until our National saving go too far negative to continue their descent. "

6 posted on 05/05/2012 6:38:50 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: SeekAndFind

Advanced Degrees in worthless, uncompensated studies are prone to make people not only unemployed, but broke and unemployable. Get your doctorate in Lesbian Women’s Culture on someone else’s dime.


7 posted on 05/05/2012 6:53:25 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: Paladin2

An aging population demands caregivers - a low skill job. Even at the lowest point of the recession, the nursing homes and retirement communities I see needed nursing assistants, caregivers and housekeeping staff. Except the CNA, all low skill.


8 posted on 05/05/2012 6:53:53 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: SeekAndFind

5 distinct categories represented by percentage and just eyeballing it i get about 150%.
What am i doing wrong?


9 posted on 05/05/2012 6:58:24 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: wiggen

^

^5

I thought it looked strange but didn’t try to figure it up like you did.

Good catch

But I can see why more educated people would be long term unemployed. The jobs available are much lower paying jobs and I htink the natural and understandable view is that taking a much lower paying job would hurt the chances of getting a job similar to what they has.
The sad reality is those kinds of jobs are not likely coming back.

I don’t know the answer


10 posted on 05/05/2012 7:04:43 AM PDT by RWGinger (Simpl)
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To: tbw2

Yabut, till then (assisted care) there are number of high skilled, “seasoned” producers who are no longer helping to pull the wagon.


11 posted on 05/05/2012 7:07:11 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: wiggen
"What am i doing wrong?"

That part of the plot was a WTF? for me too.

12 posted on 05/05/2012 7:08:12 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: wiggen

I was going to make the same point. 5 categories. Each is supposed to make up 30% or so of the overall unemployed. Perhaps they are double-counting those who have “all of the above” or something.

Any way you slice it, they are manipulating statistics to make a point. What did Twain say? “Lies, damned lies, and statistics”?


13 posted on 05/05/2012 7:09:54 AM PDT by Stegall Tx (Living off your tax dollars can be kinda fun, but not terribly profitable.)
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To: Stegall Tx

There is no manipulation just an unclear labelling of the long term unemployed bar. I believe it should read % of unemployed in that category who are long term unemployed. The chart indicates that it is essentially the same regardless of level of education.


14 posted on 05/05/2012 7:23:18 AM PDT by bjc (Check the data!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

According to the grey bars, the “recession” ended in early 2009. IMO, that bar should be beyond 2011.


15 posted on 05/05/2012 7:40:39 AM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: Stegall Tx; wiggen

The way I read the chart is that those with advanced degrees have about 4% unemployment, and that 30+% OF THE ADVANCED DEGREE UNEMPLOYED are long term unemployed.


16 posted on 05/05/2012 7:47:16 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: SeekAndFind
Reaganomics...............Make​ MILLIONS working in your garage. obamanomics..............Live on welfare in your moms garage.
17 posted on 05/05/2012 7:51:40 AM PDT by weezel
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To: Erik Latranyi
What they do not realize is that the value of a college degree is declining over time because the education received is less useful to our eocnomy.

True, for some college degrees but not all. Read this from a Daily Trojan (USC) article: Engineering unemployment rate drops

"The unemployment rate for recently graduated undergraduate engineering students dropped from 6.4 percentage points in 2009 to 2 percent in 2011."

Get yourself a degree in a good solid technical field and you can still find a good job. Study some mushy lib curriculum and you will find yourself without any job skills at all.

18 posted on 05/05/2012 7:58:39 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (TIN)
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To: SeekAndFind
A remarkable chart that demonstrates we are in uncharted waters. We have some very dangerous structural issues affecting our economy that go beyond partisan politics.


19 posted on 05/05/2012 8:21:17 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Erik Latranyi
The average high school graduate in the 1930s was probably better educated in basic subjects than the average college graduate today (of course there are some fields, especially in science and technology, where there is a lot more to learn than was known in the 1930s). Having a college diploma doesn't mean a person knows basic grammar and punctuation any more.

As college attendance has become more widespread, the level of performance expected from the students has gone down. Of course this is not true everywhere--there are still demanding colleges.

20 posted on 05/05/2012 8:45:08 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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