Posted on 05/04/2012 2:07:33 PM PDT by madprof98
OHARA, Pa. Tagg Romney, the eldest son of presidential candidate Mitt Romney, announced via Twitter that he and his wife Jen have new twin boys, delivered by a surrogate today.
Happy 2 announce birth of twin boys David Mitt and William Ryder. Big thanks to our surrogate. Life is a miracle, Tagg tweeting, linking to a photo of himself and one of his new sons.
This the second time that Tagg, 42, and his wife, Jen,39, have used a surrogate. The same surrogate was used for the twins carried their youngest son Jonathan, who was born in August of 2010. Their other three children were not born via surrogacy.
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And your demigod of "modern science."
Yes, just as God told the person with diabetes to not use insulin, the person with angina to not have an angioplasty, and the person with COPD to not use oxygen!! They should live with it!
Sheesh.
“And your demigod of “modern science.”
Get back to me when you need that medication or procedure.
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There are some people that seethe with rage simply because Mormons call themselves Christians. That is what all this bashing we've been seeing so much of is really about. It is absolutely true that many Christians don't view Mormons as fellow Christians, but the vast majority don't get whipped up into a frenzy about it. If we're not Mormon we just think they are a different religion or maybe a bit misguided, but find no reason to hate on them. But for a very vocal and bitter few, the fact that LDS folks call themselves Christians is reason enough to spend all their time on an angry rampage.
I am not Mormon but I have no reason at all to personally dislike them. Virtually all the Mormons I've met have been very decent, family oriented people. Religion doesn't really factor in to how I vote. I will vote for the most politically conservative choice on the ballot (that CAN actually win), regardless of whether that candidate is an evangelical, a Mormon, Hindu, Buddhist, etc.
Nice strawman. You argue like a liberal.
I would hope, as much as you want to win this argument, that you would agree with the truism that just because you CAN do something, doesn't always mean you should.
We Catholics believe this is one thing you shouldn't.
You call that ignorant zealotry. OK, I get it.
I didn’t call your belief against surrogacy ignorant zealotry. To be a Catholic means that you abide by Catholic tenets. I respect that.
I equate modern reproductive technology with modern medical technology. You (and others on this thread) do not. The danger lies in that some people might use that opinion to try to have reproductive technology outlawed. IMO, that would be equivalent to outlawing the use of blood transfusions because the Jehovah’s Witnesses believe it’s against God’s will to use them.
That doesn't even make sense. To set you straight, I have no problem equating "modern reproductive technology with modern medical technology." What I do not do is automatically assume employment of modern technology of any kind results in a morally-positive outcome.
And while it's true that as a Catholic I am opposed to IVF (while understanding many other Christians are not), that's not even what we are talking about here. We are talking about surrogacy in creating new human life.
You seem to be conflating this very specific objection to this one use of "modern medical technolgy" with the use of "modern medical technology," generally.
I wish you would stop.
And just so I know where you’re coming from, do you believe people should be allowed to sell their own organs?
Morman bashing is the new black here, babies are now an accessory.
Surrogacy is illegal in such religion-ridden backwaters as Japan, France, and . . . Sweden! And renting a womb is NOT an example of "modern technology." Rich people did stuff like that way long ago.
This thread has been up for 24 hours. Its apparent that you really have no problem with it or any of the number of threads that have been posted bashing Mormons. Leave the kids out of it was the rule when St.Sarah was running. I cant even imagine six more months of it. So I bid your site well bye. The out of control bigotry alone, not to mention the other issues this site has...is more then enough reason to leave.
Yep Lady its pretty sickening and yes very ignorant. These small minded zealots slagging kids for their distorted venomous world view. Now all we need is the imbecile and resident dumbass presently no screen name to show up and foam at the mouth then its par for the coarse, oh and we also need the folks that spam mindnumbing chart after chart against ABO while professing purity and damning other to hell.
What a joke, you folks should be ashamed of yourselves. We got people openly supporting Obama on FR now so nothing surprises me anymore. My how far this place has fallen and its because those exact people. Getting sick of it as well. Waiting for someone to tell me “well bye” as well I guess. Sucks that its come to this.
Well stated. I mostly just lurk now, but I hardly recognize FR anymore. There used to be a number of great, well informed educated posters on here. Now its a bunch of nutjobs and “cranks” as someone put it. Have fun voting for Virgil Goode guys and tipping VA to Obama, you will really prove something I guess.
IVF= murder. I have heard it all now! Nutjobs.....
Some of the responses on this thread turn my stomach. Some couples desperately want children but the wife miscarries and cannot carry a baby to term. No wonder when I direct some people to FR they tell me they came here and it looks like a bunch of crazies. Maybe they ran across a thread like this.
Tough! Sometimes it is the only way for a couple to have their own biological child.
You have a twisted mind.
Welcome to the “new and improved” Free Republic! See, we’ve kicked off or chased away all the rational, intelligent posters that used to contribute to this place and retained all the unhinged cranks!
Ain’t it great!
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No, it’s not, seriously WTF is going on here?
We got people openly supporting Obama on FR
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If I see anymore libs on here promoting that POS Marxists, I’m out of here.
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