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To: Responsibility2nd; Jim Robinson; HiTech; redneck; Mozilla; Excuse_My_Bellicosity; reaganaut; ...
Paul is in the campaign as a spoiler for Romney

This statement is illogical. Ron Paul has run for election to the office of the president at least three times. He has been in public service since the '80s. He has been consistent in his beliefs and in his voting record. He is Pro-Life. He, practically alone, has changed the focus of the nation on the importance of the Fed. He served in the military and wants to bring the troops home. He, like George Washington, believes in NO foreign entanglements. He has a consistent voting record supporting less spending and fewer taxes.

The primary season is NOT over. If Ron Paul could take Texas and California, would he have a chance to block Romney? If so, why not take that route? Let's not give up before I get up to sing! (Yes, I am the fat lady, and yes, I do sing!)

Know that I am a Palin supporter. But my dad, the last year of his life, had me put a Ron Paul for President sign on our lawn. Dad set up the first aid station on Iwo Jima. He was a patriot, a physician and the smartest man I've ever known.

So, would you all settle down, and answer my original question: if Freepers can consider voting for Romney, how can they not consider voting for Ron Paul?

394 posted on 05/04/2012 9:30:20 AM PDT by MSSC6644 (Defeat Satan: pray the Rosary.)
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To: MSSC6644

Look. If you want the zot - keep pushing your FURP agenda. And in the meantime - consider what JR thinks of Paultards.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

By the way, same with Ron Paul. His insane foreign policy would be a threat to us and to our allies. He's not going to do well outside of Iowa anyway. Spam monkeys be damned!

 

NOBAMA!! NO PAUL!! NO ROMNEY!!

 

 

 
To: Captain Kirk; Admin Moderator

Yes, Ron Paul is a whackjob nutcase Alex Jones truther. All 911 truthers can go straight to hell as far as I’m concerned. You too if you push that crap.

Post that nutjob crap here on FR at your own peril. I’m hereby giving the mods the greenlight to whack your account if and when you go over the line posting Ron Paul/whackjob truther nuttery.

17 posted on Saturday, December 10, 2011 4:11:37 PM by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
 
 


416 posted on 05/04/2012 9:38:28 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: MSSC6644
if Freepers can consider voting for Romney, how can they not consider voting for Ron Paul?

For for the same reasons they didn't vote for him in all his other runs. Truly he is not a stable minded man...and now certainly beyond the will to be President as he has stated. He simply wants to go out with his voice heard...and said as much to that affect. We already have a President who doesn't want his job....why put another one in office who doesn't.

Further he'd have no chance against Obama at all....Romney's going to have his hands full as well.

642 posted on 05/04/2012 12:11:44 PM PDT by caww
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To: MSSC6644; Responsibility2nd; Jim Robinson; HiTech; redneck; Mozilla; Excuse_My_Bellicosity; ...

“Paul is in the campaign as a spoiler for Romney”
“This statement is illogical. Ron Paul has run for election to the office of the president at least three times.”

This statement is not illogical, it actually touches on a key and fundamental reason why RINOs were nominated in 2008 and 2012. Ron Paul is to blame, and what he has done is SPLIT THE CONSERVATIVE VOTE. It’s high time we call him out and put blame on him for his role - partly intended - in damaging conservative hopefuls.

By begin anti-war extremist and a libertarian and not a true conservative, Ron Paul is UNACCEPTABLE to real conservatives. However, his small Government views are good and appealling enough to some that he peels off their vote and support.

Ron Paul is not a Republican. He’s a libertarian who has decided - correctly - that 3rd party politics go nowhere (he knows, he was the libertarian party candidate in 1988) so he runs as a Republican - NOT TO WIN BUT TO DISRUPT. You can respect him for it, he wants to advance his ideals, BUT THE CONSEQUENCE OF HIS RUNS HAS BEEN THE DIVIDING AND CONQUERING OF THE CONSERVATIVE MOVEMENT AT THE HANDS OF RINOS.

Conservatives have since Reagan had the ‘three legged stool’ of
1. strong military and peace through strength
2. Free market and low taxes / low spending
3. Traditional family values and prolife

Ron Paul appeals to 1 1/2 of those, and not only that - he ATTACKS those who are true Reaganites - blasting those who like Reagan want a strong America as ‘neocons’, and attacking social conservatives with opposing views against traditional marriage. In doing so, he sows division, discord and disunity. His minions are a disruptive force in the party.

In the primaries, Ron Paul has gotten his 10%, sometimes more. What’s left of the conservative movement in the primaries?
A SoCon ‘wing’ that ends up supporting real social conservatives (Huckabee08/Santorum12) that also arent true reaganites (not being small government conservatives).

The fiscal/small-government conservative wing that ends up supporting someone who - BECAUSE RON PAUL BLED OFF VOTES - CANT WIN!!! Consider Fred Thompson / Newt Gingrich - the hopes that never were. If Ron Paul was not in the race, and thos votes went to Newt - Newt would have won in Iowa and Florida. If, further, that momentum encourage the social conservatives to join in.... the conservative wins.

that didnt happen. Why? WE WERE DIVIDED. Why? Ron Paul was there to attack REAL CONSERVATIVES (did you know he ran ATTACK ADS AGAINST RICK PERRY IN IOWA?!?) tear them down. He might as well have been on Romney’s payroll, he was that effective at stopping conservatives. As a result, real conservatives DONT HAVE A CHANCE.

In Reagan’s formula, we united libertarians, national security conservatives and social conservatives. With Ron Paul, they are divided.

BY DIVIDING CONSERVATIVES, RON PAUL HAS BECOME THE ENABLER OF RINO VICTORIES IN 2008 AND 2012.

This is not Ron Paul’s primary intention, but it might as well be - BECAUSE RON PAULS REAL GOAL IS JUST AS BAD: HE WANTS TO REPLACE REAGAN’S CONSERVATIVE AGENDA WITH A DIFFERENT, LIBERTARIAN ONE. It’s bad because where Ron Paul and Reagan part ways (and Ron Paul attacked Reagan enough to leave the party in 1988), Reagan was right and Paul is wrong.

Ron Paul will never ever be the Republican nominee.
Since his success leads to the failure of consrvatives, best thing is to never ever encourage him by giving him any support.

He is as good for conservatives as rat poison.

PS.
“He, like George Washington, believes in NO foreign entanglements.” - As newt would put it, that’s pious baloney. Ron Paul, like CODE PINK, has voted with the left on a number of foreign policy votes, undercut President Bush, blamed America for 9/11, and has for years been so soft on terrorists he’s attracted nutball conspiracy theory supporters. Palling around with Alex Jones will do that. The reality is Ron Paul is nutty on a number of issues that make him very unelectable.


1,146 posted on 05/04/2012 9:17:52 PM PDT by WOSG (Anyone But Obama)
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