Worshippers killed in attack on Nigerian university

ABC ^ | April 29, 2012

[Milagros]

Nigeria Police say at least eight people have been killed in an attack on a church service at a Nigerian university in the northern city of Kano.

Explosions and gunfire rocked Bayero University, with witnesses reporting that two church services were targeted as they were being held on campus.

One of the services was being held outdoors, while the second was inside a building, but with an overflow audience outside, witnesses said.

Officials were unable to confirm casualty figures, but one correspondent counted six bullet-riddled bodies near one of the two sites and said other bodies had been seen on a roadside by the university.

Musical instruments and half-eaten meals could be seen at the site of one of the services.

An army spokesman confirmed the attack but could not provide a casualty toll.

Lieutenant Iweha Ikedichi said it appeared the attackers used bombs and gunfire in the assault.

Witnesses said the attackers arrived in a car and two motorcycles, opening fire and throwing homemade bombs, causing a stampede.

They said worshippers were gunned down as they sought to flee.

"They first attacked the open-air service outside the faculty of medicine," one witness said.

"They threw in explosives and fired shots, causing a stampede among worshippers. They now pursued them, shooting them with guns. ... They also attacked another service at the sporting complex."

A witness who said he was at the sporting complex at the time of the attack reported hearing gunshots outside while they were praying.

"Then there was pandemonium," he said, adding that he later saw two men outside shooting indiscriminately.

A crowd of people later gathered at a Kano hospital waiting to hear news about friends or family.

There was no immediate claim of responsibility, although the attack was similar to others carried out by the Islamist group Boko Haram.

Boko Haram claimed January 20 attacks in Kano, the largest city in Nigeria's mainly Muslim north, when coordinated bombings and shootings left at least 185 dead in the extremists' deadliest attack yet.

On Thursday, bomb attacks at the offices of the ThisDay newspaper in the capital Abuja and the northern city of Kaduna left at least nine people dead.

The group has previously targeted churches, including on Christmas day when at least 44 people were killed in a bombing at a church outside Abuja.

A bombing on Easter Sunday in Kaduna near a church that killed at least 41 people was a stark reminder of the Christmas attacks, but Boko Haram is not known to have claimed it.

Boko Haram's increasingly bloody insurgency has claimed more than 1,000 lives since mid-2009. Police and soldiers have often been the victims of such attacks, although Christians have been targeted as well.

[LomanBill]

>>,no.

Uhuh, "no". Just as the Oprichnik before you, you condone it when fallible and uninspired men assume dominion over the faith of others.

Meanwhile, the American Declaration of Independence asserts that: “TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men”

To secure them from what?

From Ba’al, and the human collective nature to keep reinventing it.  That’s what.

[vladimir998]

So, you failed again? After all, you must have since you ran from this simple point:

Jefferson also cut stories of miracles and the supernatural out of his Bible - what he called “of vulgar ignorance, of things impossible, or superstitions, fanaticisms, and fabrications.” He was brilliant in the secular sense, but a twit when it came to Christianity.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704425804576220612714039084.html

That’s okay. You can’t do anything but fail anyway.

[LomanBill]

>>heavily tinged with paranoid delusions, no.

What are the bullet ridden corpses of those who were murdered by religious fanatics “tinged” with in Nigeria this morning, super genius?

FAIL.

[LomanBill]

>>You can’t do anything but fail anyway.

Uhuh.  Folks like you aboard the Theocratic jackwagon would like to think this...

The American Declaration of Independence

...was a failure too.

Nonetheless, the American REALITY is that our implementation of the Declaration and the establishment of this Republic, founded upon the 1st amendment, keeps your mystery-cultic ilk from doing your collective state-established business upon the American temple steps.

So boo hoo. No royal jelly for you. Bzzzzz.

 

[LomanBill]

 

>>this simple point

Simple, to a regurgitating collectivist parrot perhaps.

Jefferson rejected temporal human religious concoctions and preferred, instead, a personal relationship constituted through a lifetime of interaction with his Creator, and the experience and self-evident Truth manifested therein.

And thank GOD he and his fellows were inspired by that Creator to found this American Republic where other INDIVIDUALS are FREE ( much to your evident  chagrine ) to do so as well.

 

[vladimir998]

You wrote:

“What are the bullet ridden corpses of those who were murdered by religious fanatics “tinged” with in Nigeria this morning, super genius?”

What are they? They are “bullet ridden corpses”.

And you still have paranoid delusuions.

[vladimir998]

Jefferson still denied Christ performed miracles.

“Nonetheless, the American REALITY is that our implementation of the Declaration and the establishment of this Republic, founded upon the 1st amendment, keeps your mystery-cultic ilk from doing your collective state-established business upon the American temple steps. So boo hoo. No royal jelly for you. Bzzzzz.”

And you still have paranoid delusions. You fail again.

[vladimir998]

You wrote:

“Jefferson rejected temporal human religious concoctions and preferred, instead, a personal relationship constituted through a lifetime of interaction with his Creator, and the experience and self-evident Truth manifested therein.”

Jefferson rejected the reality of miracles and the supernatural in the life of Christ. Essentially he denied who Christ really is. Jefferson was brilliant in the secular sense, but a shortsighted twit in terms of the Christian Faith. Those are just the facts.

Continue to fail. It’s all you can do.

[LomanBill]

Jefferson’s faith was his own - and unlike militant religious tyrants, he kept it that way. No doubt it evolved throughout his lifetime with its ultimate state known only to Jefferson and his Creator.

So, what else about America and the 1st amendment would you prefer to be a failure, Comrade?

[LomanBill]

>>What are they? They are “bullet ridden corpses”.

Bullet ridden, pacified, corpses. Yep.

That FAIL or a GO in your theocratic universe, Comrade Collectivist?

[LomanBill]

>>Jefferson rejected the reality of miracles
>>and the supernatural in the life of Christ.

So what if he did?

Unlike historical instances where the Roman Mystery fraud has been able to perch upon the steps of government and project the power thereof, in America denying miracles or the supernatural is not a crime.

Boo hoo. No royal indulgence jelly for you.

[vladimir998]

You wrote:

“So, what else about America and the 1st amendment would you prefer to be a failure, Comrade?”

Show me where I said I would prefer something about America and the First Amendment to be a failure.

When you fail to do that, and you will, what will your lie tell us about you?

[LomanBill]

Oh, so now you agree with Jefferson that fallible and uninspired men, like the Eunuchs running the fraudulent Roman Mystery sun-cult, should not be allowed to assume dominion over the faith of others?

[vladimir998]

You wrote:

“So what if he did?”

Then he was wrong.

“Unlike historical instances where the Roman Mystery fraud has been able to perch upon the steps of government and project the power thereof, in America denying miracles or the supernatural is not a crime.”

Does that make doing it anymore intelligent or right?

“That FAIL or a GO in your theocratic universe, Comrade Collectivist?”

To be a martyr for Christ is to enter Heaven. To make someone a martyr is to enter Hell. Is that fail of go for you in your theosciolist universe, moron?

[vladimir998]

You wrote:

“Oh, so now you agree with Jefferson that fallible and uninspired men, like the Eunuchs running the fraudulent Roman Mystery sun-cult, should not be allowed to assume dominion over the faith of others?”

I don’t see anywhere where Jefferson claimed to know with certitude that there were men who were eunuchs running a “fraudulent Roman Mystery sun-cult”. When you prove that that was his view I’ll consider it. Otherwise, I can only conclude it is more of your delusions. When you fail to provide the evidence for your delusion about Jefferson’s beliefs - and you will - we will see you for what you are once again. Sciolism is your way.

[LomanBill]

>>Show me where I said I would prefer something about America and the First Amendment to be a failure.

Was the American Declaration of Independence, primarily authored by Thomas Jefferson, a failure because Jefferson refused to parrot your particular religious concoction?

The American Declaration of Independence

[LomanBill]

>>I don’t see anywhere where Jefferson claimed to know with certitude that there were men who were eunuchs running a “fraudulent Roman Mystery sun-cult”.

 

Quack, waddle,

"...who, being themselves but fallible and uninspired men, have assumed dominion over the faith of others, setting up their own opinions and modes of thinking as the only true and infallible, and as such endeavoring to impose them on others, hath established and maintained false religions over the greatest part of the world, and through all time;"

--The Virginia Act For Establishing Religious Freedom
--Thomas Jefferson, 1786

http://religiousfreedom.lib.virginia.edu/sacred/vaact.html

 

... oh look --  Eunuch Ducks.

[LomanBill]

[To be a martyr for Christ is to enter Heaven. To make someone a martyr is to enter Hell.]

You have to be a martyr for Christ to enter Heaven?

What if I buy some indulgences, can I still get a vacation to Planet Kolob?

Oh wait, that’s the wrong fraudulent Mystery Cult.

[vladimir998]

You wrote:

“Was the American Declaration of Independence, primarily authored by Thomas Jefferson, a failure because Jefferson refused to parrot your particular religious concoction?”

Why do you believe the Declaration of Independence was a failure?

[vladimir998]

As expected, you failed. I don’t see anywhere where Jefferson claimed to know with certitude that there were men who were eunuchs running a “fraudulent Roman Mystery sun-cult”. And you failed to provide any such evidence that Jefferson ever claimed such. Thanks for proving my point. When you find Jefferson writings about eunuchs running a “fraudulent Roman Mystery sun-cult” you let me know.