You seem to be more than a little biased about The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and its members, even if your uncle is a former Bishop. And you are wrong on the facts. This, however, is not a time to launch a religious war (offensive or defensive) or fan the flames of religious prejudice and misunderstanding. It is a time to recognize the core evil we are fighting and pull together. Focusing on religious hyperbole (which looks and smells a lot like religious racism), and accusing Mormons of being brain dead about our beliefs plays only into the hands of the evil left.
I am a life-long Mormon and given time and opportunity I would be happy to explain why. Trust me, I know the truth in what I believe, and yet I know there is much about eternity, science, life and light, not to mention religion, yet to be learned. And I know Mitt. (Went to the same law school, attended Church in the same building, even interviewed once at his company). But I did not support him during the primaries. I wish he were more conservative.
Hopefully, the primaries have pushed him to the right. But if he becomes the nominee, I darn sure will support him. And not because I know him and am a member of his religion. And not because I want a Mormon in the White House (I don’t). And not because I believe Mitt will become less opportunistic and less of a pragmatic utilitarian who bases his decisions on cost-benefit calculations. (I can hope). I will support him for one reason only. Because I believe Obama MUST be defeated.
In the meantime, I heartily recommend the commentary on this subject by Dennis Prager. He is speaking with much wisdom:
What did I say that was incorrect?
I don’t just have an uncle who is lds, I have many, many lds family and friends.
I know mormonism.
I never accused mormons of being brain dead about mormonism, but I might use that phrase in the future.
I do not support liberals whether they have an R or a D by their name.
Romney is a liberal, he is who he is because of his mormonism not in spite of it.
Interesting article.
However, mormonism is not Christianity, no matter what Prager implies. Joseph Smith was very clear about that.
“You seem to be more than a little biased about The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and its members, even if your uncle is a former Bishop. And you are wrong on the facts.”
Drive-by blank accusations are the height of intellectual dishonesty.
You’ve already received one request to name the statements uou believe to be inaccurate, let me add mine.
Whatever your claim, I speculate church documentation will most likely be the response ;^)
Just sayin’
The Catholic church says that Mormonism is not a Christian religion, so do the Protestants, is Dennis Prager, the Jewish radio host ready to correct the Churches of the Christian faith?
Nice rational reply .... Easy choice for me. I will vote for anybody but Obama and Romney being a Mormon is no obstacle. Do I vote for the American Mormon or the third world Muslim Marxist? Not a hard choice at all. Romney is not nearly as liberal as all the trash talk here tries to make him out to be.
Oh, please! Mormons lie BIG TIME especially to a non mormon and then add 'trust me' - I'd rather run than walk away.
Mitt is NOT moving to any right - he doesn't know his right from the left. He is a LIBERAL and the LIAR doesn't belong on the GOP ticket. - And his record in MA is more than proof of that.
Your wishful thinking and the old ABO doesn't work on any INFORMED voter.
He has nothing to defeat Barry with - NOTHING and then his media support is gone by that time - the empty suit left out to dry while barry goes and makes mince maggot meat of him for his dogs.
I have my own wisdom, thank you. That's the problem - listen to this one and all his puppets chirp up! Voters being treated like they have no wisdom of their own - only PAID entertainers along with the PAID spineless in the GOP.
My wisdom comes from the GOP doing the same thing for at least 15 years.
They NEVER moved to the right as they are stuck on stupid - and this time - they are truly lost and went way to the left - wisdom says - don't listen to them - NOT ONE MORE TIME.
If so, I'd be stupid, also. I'm not checking in my brains for them - which would be needed to vote for their POS candidate.
Waiting for an answer.
What did I say that was incorrect?
"We may talk of men being redeemed by the efficacy of his [Christ's] blood; but the truth is that that blood has no efficacy to wash away our sins. That must depend upon our own action." [ LDS Apostle Amasa M. Lyman, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 7, p. 299, 1859]...you have to learn to be Gods yourselves, and to be kings and priests to God, the same as all Gods have done before you, - namely, by going from one small degree to another... [Journal of Discourses Vol. 6 Page 4, 1844. Joseph Smith]
"Jesus was the bridegroom at the marriage of Cana of Galilee...We say it was Jesus Christ who was married, to be brought into relation whereby he could see his seed [children] before he was crucified [Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses, vol. 2, p. 82].
"In the Church councils, it was spoken of: "Joseph F. Smith_ He spoke upon the marriage in Cana of Galilee. He thought Jesus was the bridegroom and Mary and Martha the brides."(Journal of Wilford Woodruff, July 22, 1883).
In the beginning, the head of the Gods called a council of the Gods; and they came together and concocted a plan to create the world and people it. [Joseph Smith, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p. 5, 1844]
I will go back to the beginning, before the world was, to show what kind of a being God is. What sort of a being was God in the beginning? Open your ears and hear, all ye ends of the earth; for I am going to prove it to you by the Bible, and to tell you the designs of God in relation to the human race, and why he interferes with the affairs of man. God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted Man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens. That is the great secret. [Joseph Smith, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p. 3, 1844]
"The grand reason of the burst of public sentiment in anathemas upon Christ and his disciples, causing his crucifixion, was evidently based upon polygamy, according to the testimony of the philosophers who rose in that age. A belief in doctrine of a plurality of wives caused the persecution of Jesus and his followers. We might almost think they were Mormons [Jedediah Grant, Journal of Discourses, vol. 1, p. 346]
That last one should be enough for you to realize you not only don't know the truth about MormonISM, you don't want to know the truth either. Blasphemies such as quoted above are the essence of 'using the Lord's Name in vane'. LDSinc demote Jesus and God. THAT is the truth and we can prove it by merely quoting from the leadership of this antiChristian cult.
Biases; when exposed; CAN be very embarrassing; right?!
The 'Motive' of the LDS membership to unite behind Romney for this country is deceptive as it's not a call to unite for "Our" country, rather to get the country in line to further the political agenda of his Organization/false church...and the advancement of that.
....I see you've been groomed and ready to divert the attention away from any investigation into the LDS or Romney. ...and attempting to re-focus onto Obama....Nobody needs to be educated here about Obama...and your tactic is well understood and known...even if you yourself might be unaware it is the usual for LDS and their brainwashing indoctrination, now being used to gain traction for the coming election of "their man" Romney and their political agenda.
Romney is 'more than a concern' for the well informed. Your so called religion is a cover for a huge corporate entity with a political agenda of it's own. It uses and abuses the membership in order to retain/recruit membership which sustains the revenues flowing to it's leaderships coffers and control of to advance their political/false religious agenda. A serious look into their landholdings , investments and investors nationally and International is a good first place to start in understanding the broad swath of this entities involvement here and worldwide....often protected from being investigated, (as with Scientology and other false front religions), by claiming itself as a religion.
I would not expect a member such as yourself to understand the stronghold of your affiliation with LDS. Few if any recognize it's dangers going in...and certainly LDS presenting a serious of ritual and step achievements to the next phase of indoctrination, is hardly visible to those who are "progressing" thru it's earned states of "enlightenment"....or those who have achieved such. It is designed that way...to Deceive... 'by increments' as is the standard for all cults and false religions.
However to promote that 'this is not the time' is a lie,.... when in fact it is a critical time to expose all there is about Romney,.... and most important to investigate just what is the Mormon 'political agenda'... which Romney is required to uphold and has stated firmly that he will, 'above' that of his oath to this country.
For that reason alone it is vital we know exactly what this organization is about...his position in it...and who he is responsible to for carrying out their agenda on this nation.