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Denial ain't just a river in Egypt - Republican conservatives can't handle the truth about Romney
Tom Hoefling for President 2012 ^ | April 27, 2012 | Tom Hoefling

Posted on 04/27/2012 6:57:39 AM PDT by EternalVigilance

Tom Hoefling

April 27, 2012

I deal on a regular daily basis with self-identified conservatives all across America who are addicted to the Republican Party. And when it comes to the impending nomination by their party of the most liberal governor in U.S. history, Mitt Romney, their reactions are overwhelmingly in line with the classic symptoms described below. We can't make them face reality, of course. All we can do is to keep pointing it out to them, in the sincere hope that they will recover in time to help save the country. 

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From Wikipedia :

Denial (also called abnegation) is a defense mechanism postulated by Sigmund Freud, in which a person is faced with a fact that is too uncomfortable to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence. The subject may use:

The concept of denial is particularly important to the study of addiction. The theory of denial was first researched seriously by Anna Freud. She classified denial as a mechanism of the immature mind, because it conflicts with the ability to learn from and cope with reality. Where denial occurs in mature minds, it is most often associated with death, dying and rape.

Denial of fact

In this form of denial, someone avoids a fact by lying. This lying can take the form of an outright falsehood (commission), leaving out certain details to tailor a story (omission), or by falsely agreeing to something (assent, also referred to as "yessing" behavior). Someone who is in denial of fact is typically using lies to avoid facts they think may be painful to themselves or others.

Denial of responsibility

This form of denial involves avoiding personal responsibility by:

Someone using denial of responsibility is usually attempting to avoid potential harm or pain by shifting attention away from themselves.

For example: Troy breaks up with his girlfriend because he is unable to control his anger, and then blames her for everything that ever happened.

Denial of impact

Denial of impact involves a person's avoiding thinking about or understanding the harms of his or her behavior has caused to self or others, i.e. denial of the consequences. Doing this enables that person to avoid feeling a sense of guilt and it can prevent him or her from developing remorse or empathy for others. Denial of impact reduces or eliminates a sense of pain or harm from poor decisions.

Denial of awareness

This type of denial is best discussed by looking at the concept of state dependent learning. People using this type of denial will avoid pain and harm by stating they were in a different state of awareness (such as alcohol or drug intoxication or on occasion mental health related). This type of denial often overlaps with denial of responsibility.

Denial of cycle

Many who use this type of denial will say things such as, "it just happened". Denial of cycle is where a person avoids looking at their decisions leading up to an event or does not consider their pattern of decision making and how harmful behavior is repeated. The pain and harm being avoided by this type of denial is more of the effort needed to change the focus from a singular event to looking at preceding events. It can also serve as a way to blame or justify behavior (see above).

Denial of denial

This can be a difficult concept for many people to identify with in themselves, but is a major barrier to changing hurtful behaviors. Denial of denial involves thoughts, actions and behaviors which bolster confidence that nothing needs to be changed in one's personal behavior. This form of denial typically overlaps with all of the other forms of denial, but involves more self-delusion. Denial at this level can have significant consequences both personally and at a societal level.

DARVO

Harassment covers a wide range of offensive behaviour. It is commonly understood as behaviour intended to disturb or upset. In the legal sense, it is behaviour which is found threatening or disturbing.

DARVO is an acronym to describe a common strategy of abusers: Deny the abuse, then Attack the victim for attempting to make them accountable for their offense, thereby Reversing Victim and Offender.

Psychologist Jennifer Freyd writes:

...I have observed that actual abusers threaten, bully and make a nightmare for anyone who holds them accountable or asks them to change their abusive behavior. This attack, intended to chill and terrify, typically includes threats of law suits, overt and covert attacks on the whistle-blower's credibility, and so on. The attack will often take the form of focusing on ridiculing the person who attempts to hold the offender accountable. [...] [T]he offender rapidly creates the impression that the abuser is the wronged one, while the victim or concerned observer is the offender. Figure and ground are completely reversed. [...] The offender is on the offense and the person attempting to hold the offender accountable is put on the defense.




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KEYWORDS: blogpimp; denial; romney
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To: D-fendr

Those aren’t facts. Those are your projections.

I mean, unless you’re a bonafide prophet of God. Are you?

The facts about Romney, of which so many Republicans remain in denial, concern his record of liberalism and his obvious continued lying about it.


201 posted on 04/27/2012 4:30:00 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney Republicanism. Even Jimmy Carter can be comfortable with it.)
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To: Baynative

I’ve already proven to you a vote for Mitt is a vote for Obama. If you think Bush 43 was a failure wait until Mitt takes the reigns. He’ll be an even bigger failure.

I’m not voting for Obomney end of story. The elites, who are Leftists, made sure it would come down to Romney and Obama, both of which are Progressives. Why do I need to vote for either of these collectivists?

Just keep drinking the Flavor-Aid.


202 posted on 04/27/2012 4:34:41 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: EternalVigilance

I think you are in denial or reality then. But, I think there may be a way to snap you out of it.

:)

How about this:

- I’ll give you 1000 to 1 odds that either Obama or Romney will be the next president.

or...

- I’ll give you $100 for each electoral vote you get if you’ll give me ten cents for every one you don’t.

Deal? Or am I closer to seeing reality than you?


203 posted on 04/27/2012 4:54:33 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Sorry, S/B:

I think you are in denial *of* reality then.


204 posted on 04/27/2012 4:55:48 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr

Personally, I’m sick of political bookie-ism. It’s a major part of why we’re in the mess we’re in.

Perhaps someday you might try simply doing the right thing and leaving the results to God.


205 posted on 04/27/2012 5:01:19 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney Republicanism. Even Jimmy Carter can be comfortable with it.)
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To: D-fendr
"If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed, if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not so costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival. There may be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no chance of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves."

-- Winston Churchill


206 posted on 04/27/2012 5:04:40 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney Republicanism. Even Jimmy Carter can be comfortable with it.)
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To: EternalVigilance

The topic was denial, not bookie-ism, not whether you thought you were doing the right thing. The bet offers were just a check to see if you were in touch with reality.

Your response indicates you are.

My point is the reality is your efforts are not wisely directed and will have little to no effect. Your responses indicate you agree.

Doing the right thing does not necessarily exclude doing so wisely with regard to the results and outcome.

This, again, is my point.


207 posted on 04/27/2012 5:09:49 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Revolting cat!
"Home Depot has good prices on bits."

I never did find my bit! Checking there next....

208 posted on 04/27/2012 5:27:34 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: D-fendr

But the Obama or Romney routes are not possible for those who cannot in good conscience support evil.

So, the odds you proffer are moot.

Which means those of good conscience must find another way.

Are you aware of one other than the one I’m offering?


209 posted on 04/27/2012 5:34:37 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney Republicanism. Even Jimmy Carter can be comfortable with it.)
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To: netmilsmom
"Facts...

Fair enough. (You had to give me a source with a picture of that creepy Romney grin, didn't you, LOL)?

More facts:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2844593/posts

For some reason I can't get this link to work, so it will have to be copied and pasted. In effect, Romney said that Islam is not inherently violent and jihad is not a part of Islam.

210 posted on 04/27/2012 5:35:24 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: A. Patriot

Here we go again. Stop with the “not voting” meme. I will vote, but not for the person you think I should vote for.

You don’t need to give me Obama’s Marxist resume. I’ve been here the past four years, just like you. I know what he is. I also know that Romney is an abortion-enabling, homosexual-loving, gun-grabbing, tax-raising, global-warming supporting, socialized medicine-creating, lying, underhanded, vicious liberal. If I choose that for my nation’s leader, I am giving him my seal of approval.

Not happening.


211 posted on 04/27/2012 5:41:41 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: Jim Scott
I spent most of my life in Connecticut. I was Reagan's state chair when he challenged Ford in 1976. Some of us delivered the Senate seat of Lowell Weicker to Joe Lieberman and would do that each and every time. Considering Romney's track record and the way he, like Weicker, is justly loathed by anyone who is conservative, you don't really think he will carry Connecticut, do you? That's the Connecticut of Danell Malloy and of Richard Blumenthal and soon of Chris Murphy, etc., etc., etc. I really don't imagine the Massachusetts mushball carrying Illinois either.

The GOP Senate caucus in DC has loads of Weickers: McCain, Graham, Collins, Alexander, Nancyboy Kirk, Corker, Cornyn, McConnell, Murkowski, and many more. The only thing they would hold Romney to is the maximum squandering of money on their respective states and pals. You are kidding yourself.

212 posted on 04/27/2012 5:49:29 PM PDT by BlackElk ( Dean of Discipline ,Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Burn 'em Bright!)
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To: EternalVigilance

We disagree on some fundamentals. Among them, I believe you underestimate the damage to the republic that the next Obama regime will do.

And you, likely, believe I underestimate the damage a Romney administration will do.

Based on this fundamental disagreement, you think you are doing what’s right, I think your actions - to the extent you are successful - increase harm; i.e., are wrong.

We disagree on this, and we disagree in that I don’t believe your disagreement constitutes a psychological defense mechanism, but rather an error or lack in knowledge and/or wisdom.

;)


213 posted on 04/27/2012 6:02:40 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: EternalVigilance

That’s a great article. I tip my hat to you, Sir or Madam!

Too many people think that good can be created from evil. Romney has no good in him and so he must be eliminated as an ingredient for good.

I trust God will show us a better way.


214 posted on 04/27/2012 6:08:45 PM PDT by Tau Food
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To: Tau Food

Thank you!


215 posted on 04/27/2012 6:13:32 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney Republicanism. Even Jimmy Carter can be comfortable with it.)
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To: D-fendr
Among them, I believe you underestimate the damage to the republic that the next Obama regime will do.

Can you point to even one piece of evidence that I "underestimate the damage to the republic that the next Obama regime will do"?

Refusal to support the most liberal governor in the history of the republic does not count.

216 posted on 04/27/2012 6:19:24 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney Republicanism. Even Jimmy Carter can be comfortable with it.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I’m sorry to inform you that while you’ve assumed a lot, you have ‘proven’ nothing.


217 posted on 04/27/2012 7:37:48 PM PDT by Baynative (Please check this out - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFIcZkEzc8I)
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To: EternalVigilance
Can you point to even one piece of evidence that I "underestimate the damage to the republic that the next Obama regime will do"?

I think it a given we're talking about a relative factor: Romney vs. Obama. IF one thinks one or the other is a huge amount more harmful, the action becomes obvious. The less difference (in harm) one perceives, the opposite is true.

It's the difference that matters. If you see them as near equally harmful, one result and vice versa.

So we disagree on this gap. The gap can be increased in one of two ways. Either decrease the view of harm Romney will do or increase the harm Obama will do.

I believe the amount of harm Obama will do makes defeating him the most critical mission for the republic in this election. Obviously you don't. This is evidence, therefore, logically, you do not estimate the damage the same as I; and that would be in the underestimate direction - in my opinion.

218 posted on 04/27/2012 8:39:45 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr

The “gap” is the difference between a bullet to the brain and a bullet to the heart. So to speak.


219 posted on 04/27/2012 9:36:23 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney Republicanism. Even Jimmy Carter can be comfortable with it.)
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To: D-fendr

As a moral conservative and a Christian, I don’t buy into utilitarian or morally relativistic arguments.

They’re the broad way to hell.


220 posted on 04/27/2012 9:38:19 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney Republicanism. Even Jimmy Carter can be comfortable with it.)
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