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To: butterdezillion
. In this thread I’m pretty much just saying that if the troops want to use their free speech to speak against the foreign enemy combatant in the White House that none of the military brass had the balls to keep their oath over, that’s supposed to be a guaranteed right in this country.

And herein lies the problem, because of the relationship of the troops to their elected leaders. You can use your 'free speech rights' as a troop; when someone in authority counsels you if you don't desist, you are no longer a troop. There is a limit on free speech when someone else determines what speech is prejudicial to 'good order and discipline'. It must be that way. As a result of the need for order and discipline, military members will have to have their free speech rights limited in order for them to do their mission. They are no longer free agents, they are members of a team. If they desire the guaranteed right, they must leave the service.

I am not suggesting a military coup. I don’t know what you think I am suggesting.

You are when you suggest that a military officer by his own determination act against an elected leader to remove him from office as an enemy.

80 posted on 04/26/2012 8:35:35 AM PDT by xone
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To: xone

I have never suggested that a military officer make his own determination. That’s my whole point. The role of the military is to get legal clarification of the situation through the Constitutional processes.

They refused to do that. The military leadership refused to do that. So did the civilian leadership. None of the Constitutional processes have been used as required by both the Constitution and the oaths that were taken by both military and civilian leaders.

Obama has no legally-determined age. He clearly failed the 20th Amendment’s requirement to “act as President”. But the people who swore to defend and protect the US Constitution have refused to even follow the protocols prescribed by the Constitution - as I noted in my previous post referring to the Third Article’s use of the word “controversies”. This is a miscarriage of the 20th Amendment, the Third Article, and the due process and equal protections clauses of the 14th Amendment.

Now there is evidence that Obama engaged in election fraud AT THE VERY LEAST. That’s a federal felony. Furthermore, since the Selective Service apparently had to forge a draft registration form for him he must not have a genuine draft registration so it has been illegal for him to hold ANY public office for all these years.

IOW, we have judicial, criminal, and administrative indications that he cannot lawfully act as President. Staring us all in the face. I have merely suggested that due process be done. If it was, this guy would be in jail rather than in the White House. And every officer in the US has to know this already; there’s no excuse if they don’t. The Emperor is naked.

If the military knew that one of their civilian contractors was guilty of crimes and failed to meet the credentials to be given the contract, what would the military do?

And that’s not even going into the whole issue of Obama agreeing with Soros to destroy the US economy, or Obama’s ties to both communists and Islamists who have sworn to destroy America - or his promise to the Egyptian ambassador to work on the Muslim agenda once he got Obamacare passed. Don’t forget that the Muslim agenda is the destruction of the US and Israel (which makes him an enemy of the US) and the institution of worldwide sharia - including in the US (which makes him an enemy of the US Constitution).

If he was put out of office for not registering for the draft it would be a little bit like Al Capone being jailed for tax evasion. Obama has a LOT more crime he could be tried for on the eligibility issue alone - including fraud, perjury, obstruction of justice, extortion (though that was most probably done by somebody else on his behalf), libel, and treason. But if we had even the smallest bit of administrative integrity he’d be eliminated from acting as POTUS because of the missing draft registration, before any of the real meat of his crimes against America even had to be brought up.

I’m not suggesting anything radical. I’m just suggesting we have the bare minimum of the rule of law. Apparently that’s too much to ask. We can have a major stink over the national security implications of Secret Service and military guys bringing whores into their rooms but not one peep out of the whole country bringing a communist-Islamist whore into our White House. And those who say anything against that whore or why we are paying him to rape the country are vilified.

Maybe Stein is guilty of a sin of commission. But not nearly as guilty as everybody else is of the sin of OMISSION. One of the confessional prayers in my church is, “We have sinned against You in thought, word, and deed - by what we have done and by what we have left undone...”

The sins/crimes of omission far, far outweigh any sin/crime of commission that Stein committed. That’s what I’m saying.

Sure, Stein should shut up if he was told to. My understanding is that until he talked about Obama’s eligibility he was told he was fine. If that’s the case, then somebody needs to explain why it’s fine to criticize the CIC on other things but all of a sudden not OK when you point out what everybody already knows about him - which is critical to the lawfulness of all combat orders given in the military. IOW, why is it OK to b!tch about gossipy type things but forbidden to talk about the legal issues that really matter? Somebody needs to explain that to us all.


81 posted on 04/26/2012 9:25:26 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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