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1 posted on 04/24/2012 4:15:56 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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While I have read bible passages concerning charity & love for the poor, I have yet to see where forced “shared sacrifice” comes into it.

I have yet to see the scripture that describes government beauracracies as the proper vessel for distributing money to the poor.

I’m tired of these guys pretending they have any better understanding of economics than the laypeople in the pews.


2 posted on 04/24/2012 4:20:33 AM PDT by Scotswife
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What is surprising is anyone who still does not know that any committee with the word “justice” in it is just a haven for leftist ideas.

Little by little they are cleaning house, this too (hopefully) shall pass.


3 posted on 04/24/2012 4:20:41 AM PDT by icwhatudo (Tax codes and spending don't get 14 year olds pregnant and on welfare. Morality Matters.)
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The Bishop should educate himself. This whole concept of social justice being the shared purvue of the state and the Church is incredibly destructive and will eventually lead to a state run church. Personally, I do not believe that a self serving politician (is there any other kind?) is actually capable of performing a charitable act. If indeed charity begins with God the credit is God’s also. I think that Pope Leo addressed some of this in 1881 ? in his encyclical.


4 posted on 04/24/2012 4:24:40 AM PDT by Machavelli (True God)
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The poor share nothing. The poor are the cannon fodder for salaried government workers who accomplish nothing at a great cost.

After the riots and calamity, those left living will learn to be self reliant or perish


5 posted on 04/24/2012 4:27:44 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Commies took over the RC Church-—LONG AGO!

So, what’s new with you?


7 posted on 04/24/2012 4:55:21 AM PDT by Flintlock (TRUTH: The new hate speech..)
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The Commies took over the RC Church-—LONG AGO!

So, what’s new with you?


8 posted on 04/24/2012 4:55:30 AM PDT by Flintlock (TRUTH: The new hate speech..)
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It’s taking the American church, like all behemoth corporations, an awfully long time to correct past mistakes. In this instance, the mistake was swallowing the poison-spiked pablum served up by Vatican II “mediators.” And Blaire, as a life-long Californian, just ate it up.


11 posted on 04/24/2012 5:06:37 AM PDT by Mach9
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Comrade Blaire, Socialist.


14 posted on 04/24/2012 5:47:50 AM PDT by RoadTest (There is one god, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.)
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If these leftie bishops want “shared sacrifice,” how ‘bout they start with paying taxes on all church properties? Give up your tax exempt status, padre, instead of being a hypocrite.


15 posted on 04/24/2012 5:59:37 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (The TEA Party is my cup of tea.)
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I’ll have to write the Bishop a little letter pointing out that government theft is no substitute for charity.


16 posted on 04/24/2012 6:01:11 AM PDT by G Larry (Criminals thrive on the indulgence of society's understanding)
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Ryan’s budget “fails to meet [the Church’s] moral criteria” because it does not require “shared sacrifice,”

This is why the Catholic agenda is never going to get anywhere in America. The church has a clear, moral position on abortion and fights the good fight, sometimes alone, on Right to Life issues.

Then they go and make an incredibly stupid, ignorant statement like this. Does this bishop not know how much spending has freakin INCREASED over the past decade???? Does he not know the percentage of taxes already paid by "the rich"????? Its knee jerk stupidity to make a comment like he made.

19 posted on 04/24/2012 6:24:43 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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Bishop Stephen Blaire, chairman of the bishops’ Committee on Domestic Justice and Human Development, recently wrote to Congress declaring that Ryan’s budget “fails to meet [the Church’s] moral criteria” because it does not require “shared sacrifice,

Just asking but what kind of lifestyle does Bishop Blaire have? He's demanding sacrifice but what is he willing to do about it? How new is his car? What model is it? How often does he go out to restaurants? Where does he go on vacations? How many rooms does his house have? Does he have a maid? etc.

20 posted on 04/24/2012 6:28:50 AM PDT by Tribune7 (GAS WAS $1.85 per gallon on the day Obama was Inaugurated! - - freeper Gaffer)
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“fails to meet [the Church’s] moral criteria” because it does not require “shared sacrifice,”

They are SOOOOOOOO leading this Church towards schism.

You can't embrace Socialism and then whine and stamp your feet when the Socialists inevitably decree that you must pay to put your people on the pill.

21 posted on 04/24/2012 6:32:04 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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Caesar=Caesar.....God=god!


24 posted on 04/24/2012 7:21:04 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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“fails to meet [the Church’s] moral criteria”

Why do bishops rail against men like Paul Ryan, but say nothing about the "failure of moral criteria" by others like Pelosi, the Kennedys, Sebelius, etc., etc. who are clearly pro-abortion?

There are things about the Catholic Church that just grind my gears!

25 posted on 04/24/2012 7:25:23 AM PDT by FamiliarFace
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Dear Bishop Stephen Blaire,

“Shared Sacrifice” is simply lipstick for the pig, that is Marxism.
Obama’s policies prove this, by the fact that they have only resulted in more poor people.
Stealing more from the job creators will only increase the rate of growth among the poor, as fewer jobs and opportunities will be available, and the governments ability to “help” the poor is abysmal!
Paul Ryan's plan SHARES the growth and prosperity, by motivating job creation and providing the poor and underemployed with a path to self sufficiency.
The world needs more “Shared Opportunity”, NOT more government handouts, aimed at maintaining a dependent class!

26 posted on 04/24/2012 10:22:09 AM PDT by G Larry (Criminals thrive on the indulgence of society's understanding)
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