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Where Do Conservatives Go Now? Part 2 (Don’t Get Suckered into Supporting the Republican Party)
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| 19 Apr 12
| Richard A. Viguerie
Posted on 04/20/2012 8:09:50 AM PDT by xzins
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To: Turbo Pig
By voting for Romney, you prove to the GOP that you will abandon your conservative principles, and they can count on your vote for whatever crap liberal they push. That's called enabling. Just like the abused wife that says: "This time will be different".
Forget it. Not only will I not vote for Romney, I will actively campaign against him if he gets the nomination.
/johnny
To: RinaseaofDs
WHAT happened to McKenna?
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posted on
04/20/2012 1:17:57 PM PDT
by
goodnesswins
(2012..."We mutually pledge our Lives, our Fortunes, and our Sacred Honor")
To: mo
A Right leaning/Conservative Congress can easily remain united behind an Obama re-election....whereas the same Congress will be sliced and diced by the RINOS if Romney is in the White House. Finally....someone else who clearly understands the dynamics at work here. Thank you!
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posted on
04/20/2012 1:18:10 PM PDT
by
Windflier
(To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
To: AngelesCrestHighway
Like a laser...this must be the focus for now. The dangerous boy socialist must go! Excellent! Let's replace him with his near-identical twin, who a Republican Congress will simply roll over and beg for. Brilliant!
Lord Soros thanks you!
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posted on
04/20/2012 1:20:50 PM PDT
by
Windflier
(To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
To: elpadre
if conservatives are the instruments causing Obama to have four more years, then that is the end of conservatism in the USA as a viable political entity. Are you then suggesting that we throw our support behind a man who wears our uniform, but whose record in office is virtually indistinguishable from any liberal Democrat's?
If anything will destroy conservatism in America, that would be it.
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posted on
04/20/2012 1:24:37 PM PDT
by
Windflier
(To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
To: itsahoot
Thanks ItsAHoot. Your compliment was much appreciated.
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posted on
04/20/2012 1:24:37 PM PDT
by
DoughtyOne
(Okay, now lets see if the RNC, Rove, and Card can get him elected without their core base. Game on!)
To: CatherineofAragon
How is a liberal with a leftwing record going to offer himself as a clear choice when the opponent is a Marxist? Romney simply cannot run on his record, and saying "Well, at least I'm not Obama" won't cut it. And even if he does win, you expect Boehner and the GOP-e to hold his feet to the fire? Really??
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posted on
04/20/2012 1:27:56 PM PDT
by
Windflier
(To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
To: AngelesCrestHighway
Like a laser...this must be the focus for now. The dangerous boy socialist must go!Is it in conservatives' nature to not only be terrible at long-term thinking, but to not even try? The Muslims and the commies specialize in long-term thinking. Either step up to the plate or look forward to long-term defeat coming sooner than you think.
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posted on
04/20/2012 1:29:06 PM PDT
by
JediJones
(From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
To: arrdon
I have a grand idea; why dont you half-wits go out and FRAGMENT THE VOTE AGAIN so we can put this Commie POS back in office for another four years! Will that make you feel like you got even? "If we're going to have a Socialist in the White House, then by George, let him be OUR Socialist!"
rolling eyes...
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posted on
04/20/2012 1:32:24 PM PDT
by
Windflier
(To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
To: DoughtyOne
What a terrific post. Please consider re-posting it as a separate thread. You’ve ably made the case that so many of us are trying to make here.
Supporting the Republican Socialist over the Democrat Socialist only strengthens Socialism in our government, and does inestimable damage to conservative/patriotic ideals.
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posted on
04/20/2012 1:43:03 PM PDT
by
Windflier
(To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
To: arrdon
I do and will campaign against Romney. Now and after the primary if he takes the nomination.
Blame the GOP-E and complicit media for their dirty tricks, rule changes, and bashing conservatives.
You do know that if Romney gets the nod, the media will unleash their hounds and crush him, as well.
/johnny
To: DoughtyOne; onyx; TheOldLady; Norm Lenhart; caww; JoeProBono; trisham; RedMDer; greyfoxx39; ...
Ping to post 38.
We have been operating under the rule of "Lesser of Two Evils" for decades. I have agreed with it. I now stop to ask folks, has our nation grown stronger over those decades? At some point we have to be honest with ourselves. For me, the answer is a clear, "No."
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posted on
04/20/2012 1:51:13 PM PDT
by
Windflier
(To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
To: DoughtyOne
Take a look at this election cycle, and realize it only gets worse from here if Romney can get elected without the Conservative vote.IMO, that has been the goal of the GOP establishment all along. I think they view the far left position of Obama as an opportunity to give us a slightly left candidate and get him elected, by relying on the weaknesses of Obama, rather than through the support of conservatives.
The Republican Party has sent a message to conservatives that they don't need our vote, and I intend to abide by that message.
By the way, your analysis is top notch. However, I think 2012 may be closer to your 2020 graph than many here want to admit.
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posted on
04/20/2012 1:59:55 PM PDT
by
CharacterCounts
(A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
To: xzins
It has NEVER been the case where conservatism gains more when Republicans lose. If Republicans were to lose in 2012 (they aren’t, Obama is) all that would achieve is to make the Republican party MORE moderate in 2016, not less. Winning is a habit.
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posted on
04/20/2012 2:03:14 PM PDT
by
Dragonspirit
(Always remember President Token won only by defecting on his CFR pledge.)
To: Windflier
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posted on
04/20/2012 2:03:21 PM PDT
by
DoughtyOne
(Okay, now lets see if the RNC, Rove, and Card can get him elected without their core base. Game on!)
To: CharacterCounts
slightly left - should have been slightly less left.
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posted on
04/20/2012 2:07:36 PM PDT
by
CharacterCounts
(A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
To: arrdon
When did you lose the principles you imply you have by claiming that you are a Conservative? Or did you ever have any principles to lose? Or is the you claiming to be a Conservate a chrade?
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posted on
04/20/2012 2:11:12 PM PDT
by
sport
To: Windflier; DoughtyOne
Thanks for the ping, Windflier.
Excellent post, Doughty One.
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posted on
04/20/2012 2:11:56 PM PDT
by
trisham
(Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
To: DoughtyOne
Thanks for the discussion. I know some of this is rather pointed, but I'm not upset with you. I'm just frustrated by what we are continually faced with every four years. I want it to stop. Thank you as well. It is unfortunate that conservatives who are ultimately all on the same side often can't seem to disagree reasonably over what amounts to a difference in strategy rather than a difference in principle.
I'm actually frustrated by those who chose not to run. He was not a perfect candidate, but Mitch Daniels was certainly more conservative than Romney, and right on all the issues even if he generally eschews red-meat rhetoric.
I'm just crossing my fingers that we make it to 2016 without things going beyond repair, when we'll hopefully have a much more conservative candidate.
To: CharacterCounts
Thanks for your thoughts. I agree with your premise of trotting out a guy ‘just not as bad’ as the guy running for the Dems.
Let’s hope you’re wrong about the 2012 vs 2020 thing. I’m not convinced of that.
D1
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posted on
04/20/2012 2:29:58 PM PDT
by
DoughtyOne
(Okay, now lets see if the RNC, Rove, and Card can get him elected without their core base. Game on!)
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