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Alternatives to donor based, ie, freepathon business model?
Click here if you wish to continue the donor based business model and free participation for all ^ | April 19, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/19/2012 1:22:35 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

I've checked with an ad agency. We can probably raise the funds we need to operate FR at our current level and at the current market price for online advertising if we run a banner ad at the top of every page and at least one rectangular ad in the above the fold body of the page and a couple rectangular ads in the sidebar. If that doesn't generate enough revenue, we can also run pop ups or pop unders and we can even run audio and video ads if need be. But of course, if we go full bore commercial, we'd have to insure strict copyright compliance with very brief excerpting of all articles to avoid lawsuits. And the agency would require that we install a filter to censor out any bad or unacceptable words in our posts.

Or, of course, there's always the membership model. We could setup a members only system where paying members get full access and non-paying members get throttled back, etc.

I don't like either of the above models and think we'd soon lose a lot of our readers and participants. Of course that may happen anyway if we can't fund it and if we cannot get our equipment problem under control, or if my refusal to vote for or support an abortionist/homosexualist/statist who has plans to install ObamaCare, er, I mean RomneyCare into all 50 states runs everyone off.

The donation model has served us very well since 1997 when we first started using it. It's very clean, uncomplicated and we attract participants who perhaps can't afford membership dues but do want to join the discussion and join our rallies, protests, prayer sessions, etc. And the advertising model would probably bring in the revenue, but it comes with strings attached.

I'm sure there are other ways and ways to combine features of various models, sell books, cds, gear, etc, offer no ads for paid subscribers, etc, even ISP services, but all of these also complicate matters.

I'm an old dog and I like to avoid new tricks, new complications, additional overhead, additional accounting, additional rules and regulations, etc, wherever possible. I like to stick to simplicity and with what works.

Thank you all very much for your continuing participation and support.


TOPICS: Free Republic; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: advertising; commercial; dues; fr; freepathon; freerepublic; jimrobinson; memberships; merchandising; noncommercial; zot
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To: NittanyLion

Dittos


301 posted on 04/19/2012 8:23:05 PM PDT by Tribune7 (GAS WAS $1.85 per gallon on the day Obama was Inaugurated! - - freeper Gaffer)
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To: dalereed
"Go straight to hell ahole!"

Well, if we DO go to "avatars" for donors, I nominate this one for dalereed

(I actually get a kick out of your replies, to be honest. You say what you think!)

302 posted on 04/19/2012 8:23:57 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: onyx
So, please tell me what the monthly donations come to. I don't want to know what you “think” that's a lost cause, I want the truth.
303 posted on 04/19/2012 8:26:05 PM PDT by ladyvet ( I would rather have Incitatus then the asses that are in congress today.)
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To: Tribune7
Because we want to get rid of an out-and-out communist who wants to sell our children into slavery.

Romney isn't the answer.

Come Tuesday, I'm voting Newt who I'm not all that wild about either. Maybe some miracle might happen.

Hooray!! The best we can hope for is Gingrich keeping Romney from getting 1144. Maybe a brokered convention is the answer. *praying!*

Btw, I do like Gingrich. Maybe sometime we can talk about him. This thread isn't the right place though.

304 posted on 04/19/2012 8:26:41 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: DJ MacWoW
...there are people for whom $20 is a fortune right now. I know several. If they had it, they’d use it for food.

Welcome to the Bell family's monthly budget. I really do know how rough it is out here.

One time we were so broke, that we thought we'd be kicked out of our house any day. It was Freepathon time, and I happened to let it spill via Freepmail to someone who was working on the fund drive. That kind person got someone to donate on my behalf. That anonymous Freeper's generosity touched me deeply, and I won't ever forget it.

My suggestion to Jim about an alternative funding model is just that. A suggestion. I know that the generosity of good Freepers wouldn't be affected, no matter what model he eventually goes with.

That said, kudos to you and the rest of the 'up all night gang' who keep this thing rolling. Bless you!

305 posted on 04/19/2012 8:27:18 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Why not continue with the FReepathon fundraising model and offer FR merchandise?


306 posted on 04/19/2012 8:27:28 PM PDT by Cincinna ( *** NOBAMA 2012 ***)
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To: Outlaw Woman; ladyvet

Likely more like a solid $35K year round which is still excellent, given the Marxist’s economy. $40K is our ideal. We already have 32 New Monthly Donors thus far during this FReepathon and some are New Dollar A Day Donors!


307 posted on 04/19/2012 8:28:38 PM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: ladyvet; onyx; Jim Robinson
So, please tell me what the monthly donations come to. I don't want to know what you “think” that's a lost cause, I want the truth.

Ask the site owner. He knows. But all he could give you is the pledged amount.

308 posted on 04/19/2012 8:28:47 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Tribune7; DJ MacWoW; FReepers; All
Don't fall for it!.

Stop The Madness! Donate to Free Republic.

309 posted on 04/19/2012 8:29:02 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: Windflier
Oops, you missed the opportunity to make that argument you called those who don't pay "free riders". Not the first one, but you jumped on the bandwagon showing your true colors as did others.

To your point, why donate to a cause that doesn't support you? For years the bannings have occured, it is clear to many that at any time this place will pull support from loyal posters.

310 posted on 04/19/2012 8:29:12 PM PDT by fml
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To: DJ MacWoW

Almost forgot to add....Jim could always decide to make the Basic membership free. Those folks could participate as normal, except they’d see all the ads.


311 posted on 04/19/2012 8:31:19 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Thanks! I get cat naps on the night shift. It’s commonly called “nodding off”. LOL


312 posted on 04/19/2012 8:32:10 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: ladyvet
Monthly donations are listed in the Monthly column on the score board and also here.

New Monthly donors are not in the data base and their donations have not been counted or deducted.
313 posted on 04/19/2012 8:33:29 PM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: ladyvet
Monthly donations are listed in the Monthly column on the score board and also here.

New Monthly donors are not in the data base and their donations have not been counted or deducted.

No need to be rude.
314 posted on 04/19/2012 8:34:05 PM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: Windflier

The bad thing about ads is they also come with a measure of lost control. As it is, we can bash liberals to our hearts content. Ads could change that. It would change a lot of things. Like what content we could post. I think it’s just too much of a hassle.


315 posted on 04/19/2012 8:34:59 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Windflier; DJ MacWoW; All

Thank you!
Really, really Thank you!
We are not all up all night. We take turns and we are
World Wide!

Freepers are the best! :)


316 posted on 04/19/2012 8:35:55 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: Jim Robinson
An idea that I’ve been working on (in the back of my head for several years) is a sister site completely separate from FR where we can have an all of the above approach.

Jim, you never disappoint. I can't say that I'm surprised that you've been working on something like that in your 'spare' time. Good show, my man.

It would be interesting to see how the model you mentioned works. It sounds very much like the Delphi Forums network. At their Premium membership level, one can create their own forum with all of the bells and whistles. Even Basic members can create a forum, but they're limited in functionality and glitz.

Do keep us posted!

317 posted on 04/19/2012 8:37:49 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: DJ MacWoW; ladyvet

Next time, please remind me to ignore her.


318 posted on 04/19/2012 8:38:01 PM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: RedMDer; Windflier

You’re right. There are a few hours when there’s no one on the thread. But not many. :-)


319 posted on 04/19/2012 8:38:16 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Jim Robinson

My Two Cents:

Set up a Member program on levels of donation. For a premium you might be able to add storage that can hold our pictures instead of typing html. Maybe just click on to post.

The more the donation, the more the storage space if you can do that with more servers.

Since almost all websites today have at least some ad blocks, Drudge is minimal, it is a viable option. Maybe only allow ads from conservative sites or sites that promote your, and our, vision.


320 posted on 04/19/2012 8:38:16 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats are dangerous and evil. Republicans are just useless and useful idiots.)
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