Posted on 04/18/2012 11:04:11 AM PDT by true believer forever
I saw this posted on Real Clear Politics, and it's worth a listen by the Romney people.
It's an audio of Mark Levin on "The Speech Romney Should Give."
Governor Romney gave a speech to a group of wealthy supporters and made the classic moderate Republican mistake of dissing "true believers" -- i.e., conservatives.
Somebody on Team Romney needs to have a discussion on conservatives with the candidate. The Governor is clearly a smart guy, a good man and he would be head and shoulders a better president than his soon-to-be opponent.
But if this attitude persists it can either lose an election that shouldn't be lost… or lose an administration that will need every last bit of conservative support to succeed.
(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...
I heard that on Levin’s show. The trouble is, nobody with half a brain would believe Romney means it.
You write that as if this was a new thing happening....
We still have a primary going on where almost half the country has not had their say, nor have the delegates at the convention had a chance to discuss this and vote on this Romney nomination idiocy, and you come bloviating and calling people names because they object to abandoning the conservative that stayed in this race?
I listen to Levin too, and he he raised the white flag about four months early, and a lot of conservatives know it. I don’t need you interpreting for me what Levin did and is doing, and it is a big mistake.
So, the ex-Speaker of the House who led the conservative takeover of the House in 1994 and the House itself and pretty much the conservative movement, until the Bonior/ Boehner group ousted him, is not “anyone”?
Stuff it, yourself.
In its simplest form, beside GOP establishment power, this is Newt hating. I am a fervent Newt supporter, but if it were exactly reversed now, and Santorum were standing where Newt is, battered, bruised, nearly broke but standing tall, I would get in a boatload of anti-emetics, talk to myself hard and long, and do what I had to to get the last conservative standing to the convention with a chance. And I don't want to describe how much I can't stand Santorum, but I would do it for my country and for conservative principles. And I am a nobody, these are prominent people who should know what message they are sending about giving up and giving in...
Conservative Republicans like Levin are the Frog, Romney is the Scorpion.
A scorpion wanted to cross a river, so he asked the frog to carry him. The frog refused because the scorpion would sting him.
“That would not be logical,” explained the scorpion, “because if I sting you we will both drown.”
So the frog agreed to carry the scorpion.
Half way across, the frog felt a terrible pain - the scorpion had stung him.
“There is no logic in this,” exclaimed the frog, as he began to sink beneath the waves.
“I know,” replied the scorpion, “but I cannot help it - it is my character.”
You missed the whole context. Levin introduced this notional speech with the point that Romney has not and maybe cannot make the case for free markets, liberty, capitalism, and freedom. Perhaps he doesn't believe it, but either way he has not made the case effectively. And Levin said if he can't, he will lose. So he suggested Romney start talking like this and gave this little speech. Hardly pimping Romney, basically the opposite.
If one is to be so pure about 'conservatives' that it causes a label to be placed on Levin and Rush as "so-called conservatives", then one can dig up sufficient "quotes" and "positions" (on one called "Newt Gingrich") to make it laughable to state: "NEWT! The Last Conservative Standing."
You are delusional. He is dealing with reality, not fantasy.
Keep applying the lipstick Mark...........
You couldn't shine Levin's shoes.
I would hate to think there was a connection . . . :(
Anybody want to buy a couple of books?
Keep applying the lipstick Mark...........
I read a post on another thread to the effect, how does Mark Levin ever read another quote from the founding fathers again? It's like he doesn't see the disconnect between what all the Founding Fathers stood for, what they sacrificed, how much courage they continually displayed, not courage talked about, courage acted upon; the disconnect between all that and what the conservative media are doing. They aren't making a stand. That's what a lot of people don't understand. They didn't even make a stand, they just flipped. That is the disconnect, and I don't understand it.
The best thing Romney could do right now is resign
“Take your Newt crap and stuff it.”
You and people like you can take your Romney crap and stuff it.
I believe the answer to your question is two fold:
1. On the day Santorum dropped out, Newt hit bottom in the polls. Rush and company would have been putting it on the line for someone who appeared to have no chance.
2. Rush, for one, keeps saying that it is not his job to make people glom onto a candidate, it is the candidate’s job. If they cannot figure out how to win among Republicans, how can they win in the fall?
Next Tuesday, unless Newt can find a miracle, Romney is now poised to pick up 231 (or most of 231) hard delegates. I really think that Santorum was not only losing money, but he looked at the polls and decided the best he was going to do in Pennsylvania was a split, with the other 200 delegates going to Romney. Wisconsin really had become make or break for him.
I have a question for those following Newt the closest: it seemed that the Newt PAC spent most of its money on bashing Santorum (here in Tennessee at least). Is that why Newt’s sugar daddy did not jump in with more cash two weeks ago when it might have helped?
How far have the mighty fallen.
I truly believe Mark Levin is a conservative giant, I believe his mind, his writings, his legal foundation work are unlike any other in the conservative world. I think Ameritopia is a book for the ages, for the ages. I don't believe we right now even sufficiently recognize that contribution until the future becomes the present. He is prescient and brilliant.
I am responsible for many many personal friends and families buying his books, supporting his charities, discovering him and listening to him regularly. And they are besides themselves.
It is precisely because I see him as all those exceptional things that this is so devastating. Especially to military who listen to him. I am from a military family and this is the equivalent of getting off the battlefield and going home early. There was time to fight for Newt, love him or hate him, there was time to fight for Newt and conservative prinicples, instead he and others embarked on making Mitt over, and nothing is going to change Romney from who he is, no matter how many stage cues he takes.
Those talking heads are always talking admiringly and writing books about the founding of this nation and the Declaration and call themselves the Defender of the Constitution, and saying the people need to emulate the the Founding Fathers and calling each other Great Americans, ad nauseum, but when the going gets tough, they all start running away from the line of fire.
They have no loyalty to the other conservatives that live in other parts of this nation, or who are working for some other conservative than the one they themselves have chosen to support. If their own chosen conservative loses, they want to pick up their marbles and go home, or throw in with the big-wigs! They do not support the convention system with its grass-roots-based orderly pattern of decision-making which mirrors our democratic-republican form of government.
These guys are into top-down control of the little people nearly as much as the socialists are!
You seem to be missing the point. The role of a talk show host is not to give advice or otherwise mold a candidate into something they are not.
To try to give advice to Romney on how to “act” Conservative is to attempt to teach my pet pig to sing.
What many of us are disappointed about is that Levin was standing up for conservative constitutional principles in ripping Mittens and rightfully so..
No matter if Mark claims that he will now continue to “hold Romney’s feet to the fire”..an about face and a cop out and he knows it. That’s why he sounds defeatest lately.
Why he bailed is between him and his conscience.
We are now rudderless in the land of gullible conservative talk show hosts. And as they are human, we can’t expect them to rescue us and we are smarter and more informed than most of them anyway..
We the People will have to find our own way to fight the good fight for the future of our Republic.
1. On the day Santorum dropped out, Newt hit bottom in the polls. Rush and company would have been putting it on the line for someone who appeared to have no chance.
2. Rush, for one, keeps saying that it is not his job to make people glom onto a candidate, it is the candidate’s job. If they cannot figure out how to win among Republicans, how can they win in the fall?
Next Tuesday, unless Newt can find a miracle, Romney is now poised to pick up 231 (or most of 231) hard delegates. I really think that Santorum was not only losing money, but he looked at the polls and decided the best he was going to do in Pennsylvania was a split, with the other 200 delegates going to Romney. Wisconsin really had become make or break for him.
I have a question for those following Newt the closest: it seemed that the Newt PAC spent most of its money on bashing Santorum (here in Tennessee at least). Is that why Newt’s sugar daddy did not jump in with more cash two weeks ago when it might have helped?
RE 1. On the day Santorum dropped out, Newt hit bottom in the polls. Rush and company would have been putting it on the line for someone who appeared to have no chance.
The first RCP average since Santorum dropped out, now has Newt at 19%... 19%, I have to admit, is not great. It is close to 20% though, which is close to 1/4... And that is with a total media blackout of his campaign going on...
You may need to check the source of those ads, because Newt really ran very few, if any, anti-Santorum ads. I think one, which was pretty generic, and not debasing at all.
I do know in Tennessee, the night before the primary, Newt's state campaign manager and 2 other of his other state staffers, defected to Rick. And took their delegates with them. Many thousands of people in TENN who had voted for Newt, long before the primary, had their votes go to Santorum. It was a low-down thing to do, especially for someone who touted himself as the only good principled conservative running. And when you the state GOP doing shenanigans like that, who knows what else went on behind the scenes.
I know Newt's last polls before the vote were very positive for Newt, and I have read that his internal polls are brutal and leave no room for optimism unless it is truly warranted.
Rush has been stealthily supporting Romney for months now, almost from the start. He won't put himself on the line and do it forthrightly, at least Mark Levin did that. For instance, today he said Romney was positively surprising him these last few days.
They think Obama's position is weak so with the right candidate it's a sure thing.
They are afraid of risk.
At the same time Obama is weak when faced with any candidate except one who is not different from him.
Just the fall off in Republican votes will end up putting Obama back in power.
They have no loyalty to the other conservatives that live in other parts of this nation, or who are working for some other conservative than the one they themselves have chosen to support. If their own chosen conservative loses, they want to pick up their marbles and go home, or throw in with the big-wigs! They do not support the convention system with its grass-roots-based orderly pattern of decision-making which mirrors our democratic-republican form of government.
These guys are into top-down control of the little people nearly as much as the socialists are!
I have a little group of young grassrooters I supervise, and they were feeling a little down at how the coronation of Romney was beginning in earnest, so I posted this to them on Friday morning - and they are feeling much better, and have a skip in their step once again.
If you have need of a little encouragement while you keep working for Newt, I hope this helps atleast a litte.
"TRUE COLORS TIME"
If you listened closely to Sarah tonight on Levin’s program, she was pretty much endorsing Romney. I suspect she will hold her cards, won’t jump into the fray until the convention, where she will get maximum exposure for her particular agenda. And then she will play the good citizen role and support Romney. I’ve been worried about her since she showed up so ungraciously during the summer to rain on the parade of some of the more conservative candidates…
The same applies to her as everyone else... Not fighting, not helping Newt right now, is the same as voting for Obama.
I want you to think about something... if all these people, who call themselves conservative, who want to be thought of as conservative, all joined together – from Limbaugh – to Sarah – to Bachmann, and all the others – and in one voice said, No, we won’t, and worked their hearts out for Newt, starting this moment right now - instead of CYAing it; there would be no doubt who the next President would be. It would be Newt. It will still be Newt. But look what they are doing, look at the maneuvering, the shifting, the caving. In the space of a week the conservative world – political and otherwise – has become a cluster of Bart Stupak clones.
Even Santorum, what did he do? Faced with possible/probable defeat, he caved, he ran home. He didn’t like the amount of debt he was accumulating. He couldn’t see the math allowing him victory. So. He. Quit.
How does Mark Levin – any of them – ever complain about or criticize Boehner again? Or McConnell, or the Republican establishment? They are just as weak and spineless, just as compromised now.
True Colors Time.
America flickers, a lighthouse about to be engulfed by darkness. People are folding caving collapsing all around us, and we are being chided for not being realists…
Realists on the banks of the Delaware would have tried to convince those First Patriots it was too cold, too dark, too much ice; the pragmatic thing was to wait for another day when conditions were better, the risks not so great…
Exactly who is behaving like George Washington right now? And who are the cowards?
Next time..
Four years from now, they will look back and call these times carefree, like the play of children. It will never be easier than it is right now. Next time, it will be harder. Where will the repurposed courage come from then?
It is always going to require biting down hard while terror circuits through you – facing annihilation; not facing impossible mathematical odds, facing annihilation.
Who will there be then to face down the kind of raw fear that cakes the back of the throat and jellies out muscles and nerves? Who? And where will they be found?
They have Newt now... experienced, battle hard, for the most part fearless, doesn’t know how to quit. There is no one else now; there never was. There will be no one else the next time, if there is a next time; because next time, not even a Newt will be sufficient.
The fainting conservatives see the GOP establishment, its power, everywhere and deep, arrayed around them, able to twist events and turn people to their will – the same way that American soldier saw the British fleet in Boston Harbor - as if all of London was afloat before his eyes.
Yet they carried on. A rag tag bunch, one step ahead of annihilation. It should be a song in your hearts by now.
They carried on and today I am writing to you about them. And their True Colors Time. I know everyone around us is fainting, finding excuses for fainting, trying to make their fainting seem purposed - or holy - pragmatic. But, they are still just fainting.
Fret not.
Faint not.
Fear not.
NEWT GINGRICH... The Last Conservative Standing. He Deserves Your Very Best.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2873017/posts
You got it. For me, it is. At least as far as Mark Levin goes, and some of the others who I thought were exceptional and principle-based.
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