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Is Hollywood no longer making blockbusters for the US market?
MovieReviews ^ | 04/17/2012 | By Mark Harrison

Posted on 04/18/2012 10:35:40 AM PDT by Carbonsteel

It's curious enough that toy company Hasbro now counts as a Hollywood powerhouse, and still curiouser that Peter Berg managed to make a narrative (sort of) out of Battleship, but what makes me most curious is the fact that the premiere was held in Tokyo. In fact, much of the marketing of this unabashedly patriotic film about the US Navy fighting aliens has focused on the international angle, which leads us to wonder- are non-Americans now the primary audience of Hollywood cinema?

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To: EyeGuy

He’s a Democrat that sounds more like a Republican. A couple of his articles have been posted on here, so you can check for yourself.


21 posted on 04/18/2012 11:18:17 AM PDT by wastedyears (There can be only one.)
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To: buwaya

“IIRC there wasn’t much if any overt religion in the book.
No gender issues either.”

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Well that’s my point. The intent and focus of Card’s creation, certainly won’t stop Hollywood from inserting its usual messages, unless the author specifically reins them in.

Cameron distorted much of the real history of HMS Titanic, and that was an ACTUAL documented, historic event.


22 posted on 04/18/2012 11:19:23 AM PDT by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: Carbonsteel

Foreign grosses became the predominant factor in Hollywood profits about twenty years ago. The need to appeal to the international market drives a lot of decisions that otherwise seem hard to explain.


23 posted on 04/18/2012 11:20:52 AM PDT by Argus
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To: EyeGuy
Card writes for the local conservative paper, and I read his articles often. His regular editorials are great, if not shot through with earth shattering insight. Usually, he talks about restaurants and movies.

He self-describes as a Dem. I'd call him a Conservative Christian Democrat. That makes him a pretty rare breed of cat, IMHO.

And FWIW, I've not read Ender's Game. I've tried to read a couple of his other books (don't remember the titles, they were so unremarkable) and I thought they were pretty much unreadable. Came across sort of like a Tom Clancy-lite, without the character development and plot.

24 posted on 04/18/2012 11:21:10 AM PDT by wbill
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To: buwaya

I think he faced that in Speaker For The Dead. Not at all in the first book. I think it may start in First Meetings.


25 posted on 04/18/2012 11:23:18 AM PDT by wastedyears (There can be only one.)
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To: wastedyears
Ender’s Game is slated for winter next year.

Ooooooh....I didn't know that.

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26 posted on 04/18/2012 11:24:05 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (I will not comply. I will NEVER submit.)
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To: wastedyears

They managed to downplay the kid-on-kid violence in the Hunger Games. I’m sure they can do so on Enders Game.


27 posted on 04/18/2012 11:25:45 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Obama 2012: Dozens of MSNBC viewers can't be wrong!)
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To: wbill

Might have been the Alvin Maker series, or the Homecoming series.

You ought to give Ender’s Game a try. It’s required reading at OCS I’ve heard.


28 posted on 04/18/2012 11:26:18 AM PDT by wastedyears (There can be only one.)
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To: Personal Responsibility

It’s the latest fantasy craze and I personally don’t care for it. Ender’s Game still is relatively underground but has a hardcore following. I think sci-fi is generally more abstract than fantasy so that may have something to do with it.


29 posted on 04/18/2012 11:28:01 AM PDT by wastedyears (There can be only one.)
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To: Personal Responsibility

And another thing, the violence is also something that helps shape and strengthen the character. It can’t just be left out.


30 posted on 04/18/2012 11:30:00 AM PDT by wastedyears (There can be only one.)
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To: Carbonsteel

Movies are made in Mexico and Canada to cut costs.....UNIONS plus over paid actors.....imho


31 posted on 04/18/2012 11:35:10 AM PDT by yoe
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To: EyeGuy

i don’t want to think of what horrific thing they’re going to do with the bonzo fight.


32 posted on 04/18/2012 11:49:50 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: Carbonsteel

“I think it has more to do with Hollywoods moral bankruptcy then anything else.”

Well that’s certainly part of it, but there’s a large measure of value-neutral business calculation operating here as well.

The global market dwarfs our domestic market and movie makers are targeting that audience and not us. So America-specific themes get rejected.

It’s similar to what’s led to outsourcing and the wholesale transfer of manufacturing to China. The world changed dramatically when the USSR collapsed in 1989 and the old Communist bloc joined the world economy. The developing Third World economies began their explosive growth as well.

The ‘Boomers grew up in a world where the American market was the largest market in the world. American located businesses employed Americans and targeted their products to the American market. Large firms even had specific ties to individual cities.

Well that world and that economy is gone. What we once thought of as ‘American’ corporations went from having a national focus with some international sales, to being multinational with a global focus. Most would likely defer from being described as ‘American’ firms at this point. Their market is global, their workforce is global. So the product they make becomes less and less distinctively American. This is true in Hollywood as well, but it’s probably more just more visible to us.


33 posted on 04/18/2012 11:54:34 AM PDT by Pelham (Obama, the vanguard of the proletariat since 2008)
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To: wastedyears

Enders Game isn’t a bit underground, as I understand it. Its on lots of high schoool reading lists.


34 posted on 04/18/2012 11:57:02 AM PDT by buwaya
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To: Ingtar

“In many recent movies, those with a plot seem to bomb in the US and explode overseas, Captain America and Thor are two examples. America wants explosions and effects with no thought required.”

Wait, I don’t get it. Are you saying Captain America and Thor weren’t just about explosions and effects?


35 posted on 04/18/2012 11:59:18 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: LS

Way to work in an irrelevant dig at Palin in a discussion about Hollywood movies, and defend the Hollywood left, smooth....


36 posted on 04/18/2012 12:00:16 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Romney is a Mormon Bishop, as was his father, his uncle was in line to be the Mormon Prophet. Pope))
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To: Carbonsteel
Trying to remember if there has even been a decent movie since "The Dark Knight"?

Maybe Star Trek.

37 posted on 04/18/2012 12:00:35 PM PDT by evad (STOP SPENDING, STOP SPENDING, STOP SPENDING. It's the SPENDING Stupid)
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To: Carbonsteel

The international market has definitely became an even bigger factor than it was in the last few years. And not just on the films you might expect. Look how huge Mamma Mia was overseas. Foreign grosses used to be expected to about match domestic grosses on a Hollywood blockbuster. Now I would say they inching closer to averaging 50% more than domestic.

U.S. ticket sales seem to be declining, no doubt because of the huge price increases in the last year or two which came at the worst possible time, when our economy is cratering.

There also seems to be a little boredom setting in for superhero movies and CGI cartoons, which used to be reliably massive grossers here but have been declining. But foreigners are still eating up those types of films and seem to be much less picky about quality. Spider-Man 3 was panned here and grossed much more poorly than the other two, but it was the most popular of the series overseas.

Unfortunately if you look around at other markets, EVERYTHING’S doing better overseas. The U.S. economy SUCKS right now. That cannot be understated. There is NO growth potential here in just about any market, but lots of it overseas.


38 posted on 04/18/2012 12:04:02 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

“Lot’s of movies do better internationally than domestically. Good example; Hayao Miyazaki’s “Spirited Away”, which grossed over $200 million in Japan alone BEFORE opening in the USA.”

You’re confusing yourself, there. That was a Japanese movie. It doing better in Japan than here excludes it as an example of something doing better internationally.


39 posted on 04/18/2012 12:05:29 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: evad

Faux Trek ? Noooooo.


40 posted on 04/18/2012 12:06:36 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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