Posted on 04/17/2012 4:47:30 PM PDT by Williams
Well it's been about 13 years forgot my initial sign in name, so pretty much from the beginning.
Never wanted to write a Free Republic Opus, love reading news stories here and commenting every day.
Would rather not go out in anger seems pointless.
Then today the owner of the site called me a RINO (I'm not), surrender monkey (not) and told me to write my opus and get out.
My sin was fighting with someone who suggested Obama losing in the latest poll is "bad news".
I could list all the insanity of what is going on here. I've tried to approach Jim Robinson in email to gently suggest the problems we are facing. It's clear from that he is not interested in discussing and resolving anything, which is a shame.
But what kind of man, American, conservative will I be if I worry more about losing my 12 year old screen name versus standing up to people who are espousing the advisability of reelecting Barack Hussein Obama, and yes if I fail to stand up to the owner of a site for calling me a liberal when I am a proud conservative?
What Jim Robinson is doing cannot work because first of all he is NOT attacking the posters who say it is best to reelect Obama. He's offended by anyone who says he is thereby supporting Obama. But he doesn't mind calling us names when we attack the pro Obamas.
OK folks, it's not going to work. You can't really oppose Obama's reelection if you may also oppose the republican's election.
Free Republic has become a house divided against itself and it cannot stand.
I'm a conservative I love my country, I have to wish away to the cornfield anyone who would assist in the reelection of Obama, from whatever misguided motivations.
I stand with Dick Cheney. The other day I had to fight with someone disparaging Cheney here. They were not criticized by the owner.
Jim Robinson owes me an apology. Not planning on getting one. The sad fact is I am not writing this because I'm offended. It's because I want to no longer assist here in the destruction of my country by those who will, to varying degrees, assist in Obama's reelection.
Six or seven liberals on the Supreme Court? Maybe atomic destruction down the pike after our disarmament. Israel destroyed. 2nd Amendment neutered. Obamacare used to deny people medical care based on age and political beliefs. Racial strife. A welfare socialist state. US attorneys going after republicans.
My wife is a cancer survivor who reasonably fears that in the future they will deny her care because she is a registered republican. And she's no RINO, she hates Obama and she won't read Free Republic stories anymore because of what is going on here.
We have a real country and real lives out here that go beyond Jim Robinson's ill advised name calling against sincere conservatives who dare to disagree with him.
So F anyone who calls me a RINO for standing with Dick Cheney and against Barack Obama. I hate RINO's and I despise misguided so called conservatives who do anything to reelect Obama.
13 years, but it's nothing when put to the wall on my beliefs against the left wing democrat party. I have too many mirrors to look in. The people here who are every day posting that it will be best to reelect Obama, should be thrown off. Instead, well...
It's over.
Occasionally, Norm doesn’t like answers, so he pretends you didn’t actually answer his questions. Then he sometimes re-words his questions and acts like they are the same question, and keeps asking until you give up, and then claims you won’t answer his questions.
I know he’s a smart guy, so I keep answering his questions anyway because i figure after he finishes posturing for the thread he might actually understand the answer.
Charles, you did not answer because you COULD not. I asked a series of impossible questions. We go through this every couple months, you and I. Last time it was the border fence where we pro border fencers were told that constructing such was impossible. When that failed, the pro-illegal faction of FR resorted to claiming we wanted dead Mexican children BBQd on an electric fence.
Here, we are told that contrary to reality, voting for Newt means a vote for Obama, that the world will end otherwise and that maintaining ones principles is NOT conservative, but abandoning them advances the conservative cause.
I learned my lesson last time. Arguing with you yields no positive result since you cannot stipulate to the most basic facts of the discussion.
So have the last word.
And what does a reference to Batman have to do with you listing some percentages of some test you obviously took online (but didn't list) that you self identify, in reality, with being liberal 25% of the time on some issues?
I saw Ann Romney say that she and her husband will never support embryonic stem cell research. Now, she could be lying and they could turn right around and change that position, but I'll take her promise over Obama who over-turned the Bush policy on stem cell research almost immediately after taking office.
Not saying Romney's stellar by any stretch but here's just a couple of significant differences between the two IMO.
IF Mitt is last man standing (I haven't given up on Newt) I will have to take a leap of faith and pray that NOW that Mitt says he is anti-abortion, he's telling the truth. Same answer for gays/mandates/global warming et al.
So IF Mitt is the last man standing verses the OMarxist, my conservativism will be exercised by voting AGAINST Obama - who DESPISES my country.
Has that answered your question?
Batman isn’t real just like your logic isn’t real.
So stop with the personal attacks if you want to be taken seriously.
I don't think voting against Obama to avoid seeing Michelle triumphantly get power over me again is abandoning my principles.
My bank account can't afford another 4 years of Obama...my savings account is a big principle with me.
You will take what they say over their lifelong love of abortion by action?
"Romney is a pathological compulsive liar. Lie after lie papered over with more lies. Doesn’t even flinch when caught in bald faced lies, simply tells another big whopper to cover up or dodge the issue. He cannot lie his way out of his decades long record of support for abortion, Roe v Wade, planned parenthood,..."
Not to mention $50 taxpayer funded abortions in MassCare. There's your pro-life guy.
No Romney.
No way.
Things are going to get really hot in this country the next couple of years.
We're all going to live in interesting times.
BTW what do you have against stuff online, since you are in fact participating in this online forum.
If not for Perot, there would have been no President Clinton.
I could say the same about Nader, but with no President Clinton there probably would have been a different GOP Nominee in 2000.
It's that Space Time Continuum thingy, or is it that Butterfly Effect thingy? Glad you're here Norm. You keep my Blood Pressure up and I think I do the same for you. LOL I love the internet.
Especially this early in the process. A lot can happen in 6 months.
/johnny
It said a lot about why you will but not one word about how exactly, as I asked you can do so without abandoning your conservatism.
A conservative, by definition is a person of principle. If he abandons those principles, then his conservative beliefs are gone. They have nothing to support them.
Faith in Romney, prayer et all, is not sticking to what you believe. If it was, why would you have to resort to faith/prayer to begin with? You are abandoning what you believe and have faith/prayer that turns out well.
Again, How do you keep the conservatism and vote Romney? You are talking all around the issue, again ‘why’ you will vote for him, but not remotely addressing it.
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bump!!
Good night everybody
Without the GOP pushing their guy that lied to us and expected us to vote for him again, there would have been no Perot.
/johnny
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