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To: butterdezillion
the first I've heard of it

Had to be a drug deal gone bad (imho), and zer0, hilly, billy (or possibly moochelle) pulled the trigger. Froze face (pelosi) wasn't in the neighborhood was she?

38 posted on 04/14/2012 3:09:47 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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Bet barney was having a frank.


39 posted on 04/14/2012 3:10:46 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: no-to-illegals

The agent was 27-year-old Christopher Dweedy, who had been working for the State Department for 2 1/2 years as of November 5, 2011 when the shooting occurred. So he started within the first 6 months after Obama’s inauguration. He was in Hawaii preparing for Obama to be there for the Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation summit.

What I can glean from the reports is that the off-duty Dweedy and his victim, 23-year-old Kollin Elderts, got into an argument at a club earlier in the night and Dweedy followed Elderts to a McDonalds where around 2:45am outside the building (and captured on surveillance video) he kicked the unarmed Elderts in the chest. Elderts, who was legally drunk, hit him back and the two started wrestling. In the middle of the fight Dweedy pulled out his gun and shot Elderts in the chest. He claims he acted appropriately to defend himself and the people around him. As far as I know the alcohol test for Dweedy has not been released. In his booking photo he looks quite a bit different than his Linked-In photo. Don’t know if he’s hung over, stoned, or what.

After looking at the video, the police in Waikiki obviously did not believe it was appropriate self-defense because they charged him with 2nd-degree murder. In Hawaii first-degree murder is only allowable in particular circumstances, such as shooting a judge... So second-degree murder in Hawaii is the equivalent of first-degree murder in the rest of the country.

Some superficial similarities to the Trayvon case (shooting an unarmed victim and claiming self-defense), although there is video of what happened and nobody is denying the claims of the Elderts family’s lawyer, that Dweedy followed Elderts from the club to McDonalds AND started the fight at McDonalds. Dweedy is white and married. Elderts is Hawaiian; his cousin, Samson Satele, plays professional football for the Oakland Raiders.

The curious part is the response of the State Department.

The head of the State Dept’s Bureau of Diplomatic Security immediately sent out a memo to everyone in the department, saying,

“I remind everyone that there is an ongoing investigation of this matter by the Honolulu Police Department. Discussion about what happened in Honolulu, Agent Deedy’s state of mind, and/or whether his actions were justified should be limited to the agents investigating the matter.

Also, please keep in mind that communications over the internet that are publicly available (such as blogs, tweets, and bulletin boards) and are on matters of official concern (which this case is) must be reviewed by the Department. Additionally, all written communications, on either government or private accounts, may be subject to discovery in legal proceedings relating to this incident.”

(See http://wemeantwell.com/blog/2011/11/08/diplomatic-security-warns-on-shooting-may-be-subject-to-discovery/ )

IOW, they didn’t want anybody talking about it.

Dweedy put up $250,000 bail and in late December the judge granted his request to be able to go back to Arlington, VA so he could continue to work at the State Department at a desk job, without his gun and staying within 400 miles of his Artlington, VA home. The rationale was that the State Department would make sure he didn’t disappear to avoid his murder trial. Dweedy’s lawyer has said that Dweedy has the “full support of the State Department”, which (IIRC) is paying for his defense. His trial has been delayed until September of 2012.


45 posted on 04/14/2012 4:13:48 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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